Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00062)

Daniel,

We can always exchange views.

Freedom of thought is not just to fascist leaders, can you see that?

One does not need to be the Pope, or to act on "SOMEONE'S AUTHORITY" to be able to defend his viewpoints. In that you are wrong, Daniel. 

We all have the liberty to write what we want, and I have the hope you will see it is not good for you to keep slandering HPB, or W. Judge, or trying to exaggerate differences between this and that theosophical group. 

With hope and democratically, 

Best regards,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline

De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com

Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com

Cópia:

Data:Tue, 02 May 2006 21:19:06 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Carlos & HIS advice: Re: Help the Movement Go Ahead?

> Carlos,
> 
> In your email below and several previous ones, you show
> what your own agenda is. That's fine. More power to you. And I 
> use the word agenda in a positive way.
> 
> But as far as I know you don't speak for the whole theosophical 
> movement. Do you? As far as I know, no one particular person
> does. Do you speak for the Mahatmas?
> 
> I have my own agenda as I am sure other people have their own
> agendas.
> 
> Now I am going to pursue mine whether you like it or not and whether
> you jump up and down and make all the noises you want about how bad 
> I am or that I should stop this that or the other and pursue instead 
> what YOU THINK I should pursue.
> 
> Make me out to be the worst person around, do whatever, but I will 
> continue with my own agenda regardless.
> 
> I do believe that you mean well, that you are a sincere student of 
> theosophy, etc. but you seem to have this strange perception or 
> attitude that you know what is best for other people, that you know 
> what other people's thoughts, emotions and motivations are, etc. 
> etc. etc.
> 
> If I want to deal with personalities and the historical conflicts, I 
> will continue to do that.
> 
> Last time I checked you were not in control of the world or of the 
> Theosophical movement or ......... 
> 
> Too much said.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Frank,
> > 
> > There is no reason to keep repeating thge forged letters against 
> HPB after the SPR admitted the only FRAUD was made by themselves 
> against HPB.
> > 
> > Yet Daniel still does that. 
> > 
> > And look at the way Daniel tries to sow dissent between the ULT 
> and the Pasadena TS, etc, with numberless gossips around 
> personality's opinions and words. Theosophy is wider than that. 
> > 
> > I have the hope Daniel will renew his agenda, drop the lies and 
> help the movement go ahead. 
> > 
> > Regards, Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Cópia:
> > 
> > Data:Mon, 1 May 2006 22:30:59 +0200
> > 
> > Assunto:Re: Theos-World An Invitation to Daniel Caldwell
> > 
> > > >I invite you to abandon lies, slanders, and any 
> > > >efforts to sow division, doubts, skepticism and 
> > > >hatred among theosophists and theosophical 
> > > >groups.
> > > 
> > > Carlos, it is new to me that Daniel spreads lies 
> > > and slanders.
> > > Can you specify this?
> > > 
> > > I never saw that he sow division, scepticism and 
> > > hatred.
> > > What an Orwell double-speak is it?
> > > 
> > > To quote from ULT sources is not lying and slander 
> > > but information.
> > > To attack hypocricy and cant is not sow division.
> > > To investigate wrong information or lies is not 
> > > hatred.
> > > 
> > > HPB did the same things.
> > > If you attack Daniel for asking serious and 
> > > understandable and even necessary question then 
> > > you must attack HPB, too.
> > > Or as the Paris Lodge in 1887 did, make a move to 
> > > excommunicate her - posthumous.
> > > Frank 
> > > 
> > > 
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