Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00675)

Sufilight, Friends, 

While my answer about the gossips referring to 1907 is on its way through Eldon Tucker's kind help, I want to share something from the Arab tradition, on friendship and sincerity:

"Among the friends, I accept with tolerance the one who has a failing, a limitation. I do not forgive the liar, though. To me, lying, being false,  is a failing which turns useless  all his other positive qualities; which reduces all his virtues, and destroys everything which is valuable in his being". 

Ibn Hasm al-Andaluzi (1)

These words may seem to exaggerate things, but they don't. The great danger to liars is that by being untruthful they cause deep damage to their own Antahkarana, the connection with the higher self. 

Hence HPB and the Masters say being truthful is of utmost importance. 


NOTE

(1) Translated from "A Sabedoria dos Árabes", Seleção e tradução de Ary de Mesquita,  Ediouro/Tecnoprint, RJ, 1986, 114 pp., see p. 52.  


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Data:Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:34:00 +0200

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Carlos uses the Same kind of argument as defenders of Leadbeater, etc.??

> Hallo all,
> 
> My views are:
> 
> I find your answer in the below email interesting and well put.
> And I will await a wise answer from the spiritual Heart of Carlos.
> I do however find other issues, to be even more important.
> How to deal with Jesuitism is one of them.
> 
> If you try to relate your below answering email to my recent
> email on the issue, I think you - at least one day - will understand,
> why there is more important stuff to this issue on Judge, Crosbie etc. than 
> you have touched
> upon in your below email and other recent related emails.
> 
> Try and compare your below email with this recent Theos-talk email by me.
> The truth is, that Blavatsky and the Masters - among others things -
> prepared the ground for further development of the living progress of the 
> Path of Wisdom.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/32538
> 
> Appearntly my email got deflected by a number of other emails.
> Silence about the content of the above link is, as we know also an answer.
> What are your views on the above link ???
> 
> I hope my rusty English is coming across...
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "danielhcaldwell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:00 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Carlos uses the Same kind of argument as defenders of 
> Leadbeater, etc.??
> 
> 
> > In previous years in discussing
> > historical events and various teachings
> > with students/defenders of Besant, Leadbeater,
> > Bailey, Prophet, etc., I have noticed a
> > recurring "theme" or "tactic" used by these individuals.
> >
> > When you cite various historical records
> > that conflict with their assertions, or you
> > cite certain teachings given by HPB that
> > conflict with the individuals
> > listed above, invariably the "defenders" will bring
> > forth in one way or the other what Carlos
> > has recently brought forth:
> >
> > HEART VOWS BEYOND DEAD LETTER.
> >
> > Defenders of Besant, Leadbeater, Bailey
> > and Prophet caution us not to depend or
> > rely too much (or at all!) on outer historical records, they
> > say not to depend on the "intellect" and
> > the "dead letter" of HPB's words but rather on the "intuition"
> > (the "heart").
> >
> > In other words, when either historical records concerning
> > early Theosophical history and HPB
> > or actual teachings of HPB conflict with their
> > versions of reality, they try to deemphasize
> > the actual history, the actual teachings by
> > "going vague". If you can make the historical events or
> > teachings vague enough or "fuzzy" enough or of no
> > consequence then there are really no contradictions,
> > no conflicting claims, no differing teachings.
> >
> > In the next few months when I have more time, I will
> > try to do a chart and show how these defenders (many of them
> > have actually been on Theos-Talk over the years) including
> > Carlos actually use this method.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
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