Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00605)

Dear Friends,

Daniel Cadlwell writes, see below: 

"It is clear H.P.B. issued the esoteric instructions at the direction 
of the Masters. But years after the deaths of both H.P.B. and Judge, 
who gave Robert Crosbie the authority or right to go against his 
pledges & reissue H.P.B.'s esoteric instructions to new students 
under an oath of silence and secrecy? Did Mr Crosbie believe that 
he was following in the esoteric footsteps of Blavatsky and Judge?"

I will comment on that. 

Perhaps Mr. Robert Crosbie did not feel he had to put his reasons
before those unconcerned, since these were private matters. 

His attitude in this was quite different from Mrs. Besant's, who proclaimed
to everyone she talked to the Masters and what-not. 

Even if private matters do not concern public discussions or myself,
it is clear that Robert Crosbie did not indulge in showing-off status symbols. He was, as I feel, an authentic Student. Yet he had intuition, and the fruits of his work can be compared to the fruits of  Besant/Leadbeater's work.

As to "authority", the only authority a Theosophist must obey to,  is the authority of his own Heart.  

And no true Master will ever disrespect the authority of his Disciple's Heart. 

There is no "outer" authorities in real Theosophy...  only in Besant's Pseudo-Theosophy,  in her "Liberal Church", etc. 

Regards,  Carlos. 




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Data:Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:49:20 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World The basic issues and questions about Besant and Crosbie

> Here are the basic issues and questions discussed
> in the article which Carlos decided to bring to
> the attention of Theos-Talk readers:
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> IF Mrs. Besant was guilty of what Mr. Garrigues and associates 
> accused her, then is it not equally fair to at least pose the 
> following questions?
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> Did Mr. Robert Crosbie also violate his own original 'solemn' E.S. 
> pledge by reissuing (through the DES) Blavatsky's esoteric 
> instructions to new students under an oath of secrecy? 
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> If Mrs. Besant was guilty of breaking her pledge, why not also Mr. 
> Crosbie?
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> Did Mr. Crosbie violate his original pledges by allowing other 
> people to have copies of Blavatsky's & Judge's esoteric 
> instructions? 
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> Who gave Mr. Crosbie the authority or right to disregard his 
> original pledges & offer these instructions to new students? 
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> Did Mr. Crosbie believe and claim that he was in contact with the 
> dead Blavatsky, the deceased Judge and the Mahatmas receiving their 
> permission to start the Dzyan Esoteric School and reissue H.P.B.'s 
> esoteric instructions, etc. in 1909?....
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> It is clear H.P.B. issued the esoteric instructions at the direction 
> of the Masters. But years after the deaths of both H.P.B. and Judge, 
> who gave Robert Crosbie the authority or right to go against his 
> pledges & reissue H.P.B.'s esoteric instructions to new students 
> under an oath of silence and secrecy? 
> 
> Did Mr Crosbie believe that he was following in the esoteric 
> footsteps of Blavatsky and Judge?
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> IF Mr. Crosbie believed he was given permission by the dead HPB or 
> the dead Judge or the Mahatmas to establish the D.E.S. and reprint 
> HPB's Instructions, then would he be guilty of violating his pledge?
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> But the SAME QUESTION should be asked of Mrs. Besant....
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> Did she ALSO believe she was in contact with the dead HPB and/or the 
> Masters and did she believe that they gave her permission to reprint 
> the Instructions in THE SECRET DOCTRINE, Volume III?
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> If she believed this was the case, then would she be guilty of what 
> the Theosophy Company writers accused her of?
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> Will Carlos deal with these questions in a straightforward manner or 
> ignore them and try to distract the reader???
> 
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