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Head Learning or Autonomy?

Apr 22, 2006 07:08 AM
by carlosaveline


Friends,

Buddha's words, quoted by Cass (see below), are in a nutshell an extremely correct description of the HPB/Masters Pedagogy. 

This is also what 20th century Brazilian thinker and popular educator Paulo Freire called "the pedagogy of autonomy".  

If one does not have autonomy, no learning can endure, because is it only imitatitive and not real. 

Regards,  Carlos. 
 
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Cópia:

Data:Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:53:54 -0000

Assunto:Re: Theos-World To Bill: No Obsession?

> ""Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no 
> matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and 
> your own common sense."
> [Gautama Buddha, 563BCE-483BCE]"
> 
> This is especially true when I say something.
> 
> Blessings
> 
> Vince
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva wrote:
> >
> > 
> > "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no 
> > matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason 
> and your own 
> > common sense." 
> > [Gautama Buddha, 563BCE-483BCE]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > carlosaveline wrote: 
> > Bill, 
> > 
> > I am taking care. 
> > 
> > Impersonality is of the essence.
> > 
> > Not wishing anything bad for the ones you disagree with is another 
> issue. 
> > 
> > That comes from having peace in your heart first. If you have 
> that, anger will not stick.
> > 
> > Pythagorean greetings, Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > C�pia:
> > 
> > Data:Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:08:52 -0400
> > 
> > Assunto:Re: Theos-World No Obsession About Dugpas?
> > 
> > > Dear friends,
> > > 
> > > I hope Carlos is not developing an obsession about Daniel.
> > > 
> > > best regards, Bill.
> > > 
> > > carlosaveline wrote:
> > > > Dear Friends,
> > > >
> > > > I hope Daniel is not developing an obsession about dugpas.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards, Carlos. 
> > > >
> > > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > C�pia:
> > > >
> > > > Data:Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:21:29 -0000
> > > >
> > > > Assunto:[Spam] Theos-World Master KH on Dugpas: "Every man has 
> a potential Dugpa in him."
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >> Master KH on Dugpas:
> > > >>
> > > >> [Research has shown that this material from Master K.H. 
> > > >> dates back to the 1880s. One version of this material can be 
> found 
> > > >> written on the end pages of William Q. Judge's Nov.-Dec. 1888 
> diary.
> > > >>
> > > >> ====================================================
> > > >> On the astral and psychic planes the Masters are always 
> stronger 
> > > >> than the Dugpas, because there, good is stronger than evil. 
> But on 
> > > >> our material plane, evil is stronger than good, and the 
> Adepts 
> > > >> having to exercise cunning if acting on this plane, (which is 
> > > >> contrary to their natures) encounter great difficulty and can 
> only 
> > > >> palliate evil effects. In powers not good there is an absence 
> of 
> > > >> good, but not presence of evil, and the higher you go, the 
> more does 
> > > >> evil become the absence of good. The first exercise of 
> Dugpaship is 
> > > >> to psychologize people. Every man has a potential Dugpa in 
> him. When 
> > > >> the 6th Race reaches its close, there will be no more Dugpas. 
> A 
> > > >> Dugpa may become converted during life, at the expense of 
> terrible 
> > > >> suffering and trials. Dugpas are usually destroyed by 
> Kundalini, the 
> > > >> astral fire. They consume themselves. The Dugpa is forced to 
> his own 
> > > >> destruction. He becomes fascinated, runs into the evil 
> current and 
> > > >> so destroys himself. The beasts of Dugpas have nothing but 
> the 
> > > >> animal in them, and even when they awaken the highest 
> spirituality 
> > > >> in them, it is the spirituality of the beast where there is 
> nothing 
> > > >> but vile, selfish instinct. On earth there is no evil power 
> higher 
> > > >> than the Dugpas. They cannot when seen psychically conceal 
> the 
> > > >> presence of red about them. It is always visible in their 
> aura. The 
> > > >> color is deep crimson red. The sign of the presence of a 
> Dugpa is a 
> > > >> cold, clammy, empty, snaky feeling. Do not mistake the above 
> for 
> > > >> another feeling, viz., when chelas materialize they create a 
> vacuum 
> > > >> around them, which feels to us like a change of atmosphere, 
> like 
> > > >> being suddenly removed to a high plateau in Thibet. (The one 
> a dry 
> > > >> cold like high atmosphere, the other clammy).
> > > >> ===================================================
> > > >>
> > > >> Quoted from:
> > > >> http://blavatskyarchives.com/koothoomicommentaries.htm
> > > >>
> > > >>
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