Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00396)

carlosaveline <carlosaveline@terra.com.br> wrote:=20

Dear Cass,

No writing by Plato was esoteric.  Clearly so.=20

His esoteric lessons  -- as Historians of Philosophy report, did NOT  go to=
 paper,  as long as it is known today.=20

And they certainly did not go to the Internet either.

Always nice to talk about classical philosophy.=20

Best regards,    Carlos.=20



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Data:Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:45:31 -0700 (PDT)

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Wisdom Is Not Just Words

> Carlos,
> There didn't seem to be a problem when Plato's "Timeaus" was recorded for=
 history, so why are you so concerned about internet access to HPB's talks =
on esotericism. Is this just for those who sit at the feet of Socrates? Eve=
n Socrates had his Diogenis
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> Dear Friends,
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> Daniel Caldwell writes, in the text he mentions below:=20
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> "Since I first published The Esoteric Papers of Madame Blavatsky in early=
 2005, students of the United Lodge of Theosophists 'tradition' have writte=
n to me 'protesting' that I should not have published these private papers =
which HPB had originally intended only for her esoteric school students. So=
me of these ULT students even believe that this publication is an 'injustic=
e' to HPB and the Mahatmas and that I have also created 'bad' karma for mys=
elf."=20
> "I should also point out that some of these ULT students who have strongl=
y objected to my publishing of HPB's esoteric papers have admitted to me th=
at they also have access to these esoteric papers of H.P.B. and even read a=
nd study them. Therefore one might seriously ask: who has given permission =
to these present-day ULT students to read and study these esoteric papers w=
hich were originally published by H.P.B. decades before they were even born=
? "
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> I hope Daniel did not have to invent or fabricate those "ULT students" wh=
om he says wrote to him "protesting".=20
> But Daniel entirely misses the point I am raising.=20
> I am not discussing here the publication of HPB's Esoteric Section papers=
. Boris de Zirkoff published them in the "Collected Writings", volume XII, =
and I have nothing to say here about such a publication. That is a more com=
plex issue, which would have to be discussed in a proper way.
> The point I am making here is that pouring HPB's Esoteric Papers into the=
 Internet is a wild form of mental pollution.=20
> A serious and balanced editor must have some empathy and responsibility w=
ith regard to the texts he edits and publishes.=20
> It is obvious that putting information in the Internet is not the same as=
 stimulating people's consciousness and conscience.=20
> Anyone who has respect for the wisdom tradition knows that information mu=
st be handled with care -- and not thrown out at people's faces just to sho=
w them "how much information you have".=20
> On the other hand, it is also important the way material is presented.=20
> Boris de Zirkoff published the Esoteric School Papers in a respectful way=
. One might discuss whether he should have published those papers or not --=
 but putting them in the internet is an entirely different thing, even if t=
hey have not been adulterated.=20
> We all know what is the Internet these says. How many "trollers" and liar=
s circulate fake texts in the internet? Worldwide, police departments have =
to put more and more policemen in action to fight various kinds of internet=
 criminals.
> The main point, though, is to perceive the difference between WORDS and C=
ONSCIOUSNESS.
> Any irresponsible editor can copy texts and put them -- perhaps without a=
ltering them -- into the Internet.=20
> Only living Schools (either Esoteric or not) can preserve the SPIRIT whic=
h is beyond the DEAD LETTER.=20
> Human beings are still irreplaceable. Fortunately so.
> Theosophy is not WORDS only. Words are but one of its many tools.=20
> Best regards, Carlos.=20
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> Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> Data:Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:02:51 -0000
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> Assunto:Theos-World The Publication of HPB's Esoteric Papers
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> > The Publication of HPB's Esoteric Papers
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