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Caldwell & the Criminals

Apr 18, 2006 01:43 PM
by carlosaveline


Bill,

Thanks. 

H. S. Olcott, H. P. Blavatsky, every theosophist in the 19th century,  and Vernon Harrison and other SPR members in the late 20th century have said loud and clear that Soloviof's and Coulombs's accusations against HPB were, and are,  FALSE. 

So, why pretend they "may be true"?

I am defending no "party line" here. It is just common sense. 

Why would Ms. Radha Burnier agree with me, as she did, in written form, as to the publication of these old slanders?  How come Soloviof is suddenly seen as a "historical source"? Daniel obviously knows very well that Soloviof and the Coulimbs were criminals --  thieves and blackmailers. They tried to extract money from the TS, and as they failed they got the money from the Christian Missionaries and attacked HPB with forged letters etc.  So why publicizing all that stuff?  

What is the aim here? 

Not even Daniel has the nerve to say that those slanders are more than slanders. He says -- "maybe". He treacherously suggests the possibility. He makes propaganda of the slanders and washes his hands. 

There are certain things in life that are well-known. Look at HPB's astrological chart and tell me she "could have been" a fraud!  

Sun in Leo; Ascendant in  Cancer; Moon in  Libra. And many other elements of deep, firm sincerity and courage, but also of some vulnerability to enemies (ascendant Cancer).     

One thing is liberty of thought. Another thing is circulating the same old falsehoods. 

But if Daniel uses fraud with false names in the Internet, then he may have something in common with the Coulombs.

I am trying to figure this out. 

Regards,  Carlos. 







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Data:Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:18:11 -0400

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Paul Johnson & Daniel Caldwell

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> carlosaveline wrote:
> > Dear Friends, 
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> > And then you have Paul Johnson with his brilliant "theories" against the theosophical movement. 
> > 
> 
> Carlos, what is your motivation in bringing this up again?
> > Strangely enough, last February Paul Johnson denounced Daniel Caldwell at Theos-talk as a "troller" who invented several aliases or "internet-personifications" in order to attack the ULT, to attack Paul himself, etc. Once Johnson made his points with regard to Daniel, our slanders-editor diesappeared from Theos-talk with no explanations. Or at least spent some time writing here under other names. 
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> I believe that Paul gave a very clear explanation of why he was leaving 
> theos-talk. Perhaps you have forgotten?
> > I am still waiting for Daniel's answer to the texts by Paul Johnson on him.
> > This is rather important. In case Daniel actually forged the existence of persons like "David Green", or "Terry Hobbes", etc. (which he did not deny so far), he might also be inclined to make propaganda of other forgers, like Sololoviof, etc. 
> > 
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> A person who sees beyond the superficial realizes that Daniel has 
> answered this question very clearly. Another person, who only looks at 
> the surface of things, will not see the answer.
> > After all, if that is true, the Coulombs and Soloviof could be considered his 19th century coleagues. 
> >
> > As we know, Ethics is of the essence if anyone wants to study Theosophy. 
> >
> > I hope Daniel will answer to Paul Johnson's accusations of internet-fraud, and I also hope he will abandon his propaganda about the falsehoods created by the enemies of the theosophical movement, who seems to have no respect for facts. 
> The overarching FACT of HPB's efforts is that a man should grow to think 
> independently for himself. As often as Daniel and I have disagreed, he 
> has never insinuated that I should take his word for anything. He has 
> never implied that his understanding of theosophy was THE 
> understanding. He has never said, "read this, but not that. Consider 
> these authors as legitimate but not these others." When Daniel makes 
> critical comments about THE MASTERS REVEALED, I know that he has 
> actually read the book. To his credit, he does not then say, "I have 
> read the book and it is flawed, so you don't need to read the book." I 
> believe that Daniel understands that every man must learn to think and 
> discern for himself the wisdom inherent in every representation of 
> truth. This learning process is sometimes difficult as old 
> well-accepted thought patterns are challenged again and again, but the 
> difficulty of such a life is far better than the stupor of never had 
> thought for oneself in any significant sense.
> 
> Carlos, I do see evidence that you also think for yourself 
> occasionally. Where you and I would disagree, is that you would have 
> others take your conclusions and observations as Fact, rather than have 
> them experience the theosophical process of discerning fact from fiction 
> for themselves.
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> 
> peace within,
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> bill
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