Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00314)

What specific documents are you asserting to be slanderous?

Blessings

Vince

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
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> Dear Friends,
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> I don't see contradiction in my two paragraphs quoted by Daniel. 
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> Indeed, in his disgusting and sad book, there is "no word from 
the 'editor' Daniel Cadlwell admitting he is publishing documents 
which have no trace of truth in them whatsoever".
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> He only says that those texts are not likely to be true, or 
something similar, and thus he follows the well-known "maybe 
policy". 
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> And even this he writes in a way which the average reader will 
most likely NOT SEE. 
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> John Algeo did the same thing with the HPB Letters.  Some 20 per 
cent of the texts published by Algeo in his "HPB Letters" volume I --
- are fake. 
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> Caldwell was more modest -- but then,  he was  the pioneer in 
publishing semi-unidentified lies and libels as if they were part 
of  the theosophical literature. 
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> In the introduction of his unfortunate boook, Caldwell 
calls "testimonies" those open and shameful lies.
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> No honest editor or Historian can do such a thing.   I still hope 
in the future Caldwell will realize that  this is not the proper 
thing to do. 
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> Best regards,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline 
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> Data:Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:33:45 -0000
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> Assunto:Theos-World "No proper identification": Do we have a good 
example with the ETS reprint???
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> > Readers,
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> > Please notice the progression here:
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> > Originally Carlos wrote:
> > 
> > "In the disgusting volume The Esoteric World of Madame 
Blavatsky —
> > while believing the editor has selected truthful documents — the
> > reader will bump into many of the lies written against HPB. 
There he
> > will see two texts by Emma Coulomb (pp. 35-36 and pp. 210-215) 
with
> > no word from the 'editor' Daniel Cadlwell admitting he is 
publishing
> > documents which have no trace of truth in them whatsoever."
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> > Notice Carlos' words:
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> > "....no word from the 'editor' Daniel Cadlwell admitting ...."
> > 
> > Now after I have pointed out repeatedly that this is simply not 
true 
> > by quoting directly from my book several statements showing that 
> > what Carlos wrote is not accurate, Carlos apparently backs off 
from 
> > his "NO WORD" stance and writes instead:
> > 
> > "Only in the final pages of his sad book he made commentaries 
> > admitting those 'texts' were likely not authentic."
> > 
> > Well I guess we should be happy with his apparent concession and 
> > retraction of his original statement!!!
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> > But now we must puzzle over his definition of FINAL in the 
> > phrase "the FINAL pages"....
> > 
> > because more than 100 pages BEFORE the final pages of the book I 
> > wrote at the appropriate place about the Coulomb attack having 
no 
> > solid foundation....
> > 
> > Anyway moving on....
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> > If Carlos is really "upset" because I gave "no proper 
> > identification" about the Coulomb testimony, then is the 
following 
> > example another example of what Carlos would consider "no proper 
> > identification."
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> > In 1995, the Edmonton Theosophical Society (who is also the 
> > publisher of Fohat where Carlos originally wrote his above 
quoted 
> > words about my book) REPRINTED the ENTIRE 112 pages of Madame 
> > Coulomb's "disgusting" (to use Aveline's description) pamphlet. 
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> > They published the ENTIRE pamphlet and sold it. A correspondent 
of 
> > mine originally wrote me informing me that he had bought this 
> > reprint and I in turn bought copies although I had a copy of the 
> > original. 
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> > Nowhere in the reprint by ETS is there ONE WORD warning today's 
> > readers about the contents of this volume....not even in the 
FINAL 
> > pages of this reprint!!
> > 
> > Maybe Carlos should dash off a letter to FOHAT and ETS telling 
them 
> > that they should have done differently....that they should not 
have 
> > reprinted this DISGUSTING volume...and with "no proper 
> > identification." !!!
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> > Daniel
> > http://hpb.cc
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