Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00258)

You wrote:

> know when something is not TRUE -- conscience ? ] .........

I do not rely on conscience to discern right and wrong, insofar as 
conscience is often distorted.  There are additional faculties 
available within the psyche which assist on discerning between right 
and wrong.

> DTB NO There is in each of us the ATMA which can become
> MAHATMA if we make ourselves proficient in virtuous living. The 
VOICE OF THE
> SILENCE deals essentially with this process -has to be studied 
carefully
> along with the SECRET DOCTRINE 

Okay.

> DTB THOSE QUALITIES ARE INNATE TO ALL LIVING BEINGS. Seek in your
> innermost consciousness for them and resolve to apply them in 
daily life
> rigorously

I attempt to do this daily.

> DTB WHAT WE MAY BELIEVE INDICATES MERELY UNCERTAINTY. Beyond 
existing
> acknowledged "limits": what is there further ? 

Much exists outside of  our subjective personal experience.

> "Define AGNOSTIC." Fact, or personal ignorance ?

I am moreso considered to be a hardcore agnostic, insofar as I do 
not merely assert that I don't know if there exists a cosmological 
supergod.  Rather, I assert that you are incapable, in your own 
mental finiteness, to discern the personality and existence of a 
cosmological supergod.

> "DURATION" MERELY SAYS THAT TIME AS WE KNOW IT MAY EXTEND FURTHER 
We live
> IN IT. We don't control it do we ? 

I believe that time is inferior to eternity, and we are only bound 
to time in the context of our own psyhical mortality.  Time itself 
is temporal, and we merely live in time temporally.

> DTB THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER YOU OR I "BELIEVE" in 
reincarnation.
> The question is: IS IT A FACT ? Do we have a fear of it ? If so, 
why ?
> What do we need to ,earn about it ?

Then perhaps I can ask the question on whether reincarnation is a 
fact or not.  Is reincarnation actually a fact, or is it merely a 
theory?  If indeed it is a fact, then what specific facts act as the 
basis for such a belief?  I oftentimes find that people are unable 
to differentiate between facts and theories.

I personally believe that the human species descended from immortal 
elder gods, and that the human species will again evolve into a 
state of physical immortality.  When physical immortality is 
achieved among the entirety of the human species, it will do away 
with the assumed process of reincarnational cycles.  The concept of 
reincarnation becomes obsolete in the presence of physically 
immortal perfection.

> DTB EVERY BEING HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC INTELLIGENCE BUILT UPON ITS 
PAST
> LINE OF EXPERIENCE - JUST AS WE REMEMBER THE EARLIER DAYS AND 
YEARS OF THIS
> LIFE. Intelligence implies reasoning, logic, the ability to use 
the mind,
> however such a limited "mind" it might be. The qualities of an 
atom, a
> specific genus of plant or animal - all indicate INTELLIGENCE that 
forms the
> vital core essence of those and give them their specific qualities 
and their
> own "personality or character." Have you not had similar 
experiences ?

I believe that intelligence exists on a base level of genetic 
coding.  In this sense, even a rock possesses intelligence at a base 
level of genetic coding at the core of it's cells, for the cells 
must be able to intelligently read and interpret the genetic program 
that offers shape and form to the rock.  Hence, the rock is 
intelligent, in that it's cells can read the genetic program by 
which it recieves shape and form.

> DTB - AT WHAT COST OF ENERGY ? And what practical value has been 
extracted ?

I simply posited that atoms (in the literal sense) are destructible, 
whether for good or bad.  You had posited that atoms are 
indestructible.  One may argue, however, that their is the potential 
of new life in every subatomic particle which becomes split, and 
without such splits, no new life can occur.

> The "split" atom then makes up further atoms of a different 
constitution and
> ;power and intelligence. Every chemical or physical reaction 
implies a
> division of power and an increment o loss of "individual 
intelligence." But
> THE BASIC INTELLIGENCE always remains a constant of the WHOLE . 

The new atoms become more powerful.

> DTB YES WE ARE ALL INVOLVED IN THAT

In what ways do karma effect each on of us?  Can I be adversely 
affected by someone else's bad karma, even if my karma is good?  
Let's say that I am attacked by a dangerous criminal as a youth.  Is 
that really my bad karma in effect, or could it rather be that 
someone else is merely exposing me to their own bad karma, with 
subsequent ill effect on me?  Can a person with good karma be 
adversely effected by someone else's bad karma, or vice versa?

> DTB AKASHIC RECORDS HAVE THIS IN FULL

What specifically are akashic records?  Are these tomes located only 
on the astral planes of existence?

> DTB WE ARE NOW THOSE SAME "SUPER-BEING." BUT SUCH KNOWLEDGE IS
> DANGEROUS IN THE HANDS OF SELFISH AND VICIOUS -- HENCE IS ONLY 
AVAILABLE TO
> THE VIRTUOUS - AND THOSE ARE THE Wise .

I have often seen knowledge in the hands of the selfish and vicious.

> WISDOM is BUDDHI - GENEROSITY AND BROTHERHOOD  
> PRACTISED TO AND FOR ALL. B BHAGAVAD GITA explains this. Have you 
got it ?

I possess a small portion.

> It is hard and continuous work to acquire it. 

I read and practice every day.

> DTB THE Brain is superior in intelligence to a finger yet both are 
in
> the same body. The inner INDIVIDUAL drives the brain and the 
finger. 

I view the brain as merely an extension of the human spirit, just as 
a computer may be used as an extension of the brain, or a tool or 
screwdriver may be used as an extension of the hands.  The brain is 
not the center of consciousness, but is merely an extended tool of 
the human spirit.

Blessings

Vince