Re: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
Mar 26, 2006 11:59 AM
by Iain
Carlos-
It was a joke. I don't drink either. I think you're taking it way
too seriously. You're resorting to calling me a drunk out of the
blue, because I'm a writer. It sounds like a personality conflict
to me, and something that you need to deal with on your own.
Vince
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
Vince,
Sorry, I don't enjoy getting drunk with words or alcohol.
Silence is that which gives words and others things meaning.
Carlos.
>From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@...>
>Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
>Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:05:46 -0000
>
>Carlos-
>
>But it's Saturday.
>
>Vince
>
>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Vince,
> >
> > No thanks. I might get mentally drunk.
> >
> > Carlos.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> > >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:22:00 -0000
> > >
> > >Carlos-
> > >
> > >No, I actually don't. But I do think that some people can
easily
> > >get offended at other people's creative writing habits, if
what is
> > >written isn't quite what they want to hear. Does that answer
your
> > >question? I can elaborate in long stanzas for you if you'd
like.
> > >
> > >Vince
> > >
> > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
aveline"
> > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vince,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I've got a question.
> > > > Do you believe that people can get drunk with words, as
they
>play
> > >with them
> > > > and get enthusiastic about their own abilities in making
>sentences?
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Carlos.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: Theos-World Carlos- The virtue of
literal 'truth' and
> > >the evil of
> > > > >'nonsense'
> > > > >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:47:00 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > >Carlos
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm glad then that you didn't feel tricked. Actually,
> > > > >the 'nonsense' that I had originally presented was a type
of
> > > > >wordplay used somewhat as a literary device. I forget the
>exact
> > > > >terminology for such a literary device, but it is often
used
>in
> > > > >creative writing contexts, and sometimes even in debate or
>common
> > > > >discussion. What in effect actually happened is that
someone
> > >(I'll
> > > > >not name who) had hyper-literalistically strained my
>wordplay, and
> > > > >therefore had declared it to be 'absurd'.
> > > > >
> > > > >For example, I may make a statement such as 'I ate a
whole cow
> > > > >today'. And indeed such a statement is absurd,
especially to
>the
> > > > >hyper-literalist. Some literalists will actually be
offended
>if I
> > > > >say that 'I ate a whole cow today', when in reality I did
not
>eat
> > >a
> > > > >whole cow today. It vexes them in their respect for the
high
> > >virtue
> > > > >of truth, and I am merely an ignorant purveyor of
deceptive
> > > > >falsehood to them, if I make such an absurd statement
as 'I
>ate a
> > > > >whole cow today'.
> > > > >
> > > > >Now such a statement as 'I ate a whole cow today' is not
> > > > >intentionally meant to manipulate or decieve,
notwithstanding
>the
> > > > >fact that there are sometimes those literalists who will
> > >inevitably
> > > > >strain such a statement exceedingly, assuming that I
actually
>ate
> > >a
> > > > >whole cow, or that I believe myself to have eaten a whole
cow.
> > >The
> > > > >hyper-literalist, when assuming ignorance in the other
person
>when
> > > > >absurd statements are made, only vexes herself/himself,
>because
> > >pure
> > > > >truth has not been expressed.
> > > > >
> > > > >Vince
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
>aveline"
> > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vincent,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did not feel tricked. And I do not enjoy "judging
> > >personalities".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just saw you said -- sometimes you write some
nonsense
>in
> > >order
> > > > >to
> > > > > > measure people's reactions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That tends to be seen as a mental trick.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In Theosophy, candidness, the ability to speak one's
mind,
>to
> > > > >write what one
> > > > > > thinks and to think what one writes, is considered to
be
>the
> > >fuel
> > > > >in the
> > > > > > search for truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Otherwise you get trapped in closed circles leading to
>self-
> > > > >delusion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ideally, there should be a sort of balance between
words
>and
> > > > >silence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All the best, Carlos.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: Vincent Agnostic?
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:56:59 -0000
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >You wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Agnostics also do not play mind tricks like the
ones you
> > >said
> > > > >you
> > > > > > >play, or are playing, here."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >In what way did you feel tricked?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I've often classified Christian fundamentalists as the
> > >tricksters,
> > > > > > >but I suppose anyone can do it, agnostic or otherwise.
>And
> > >indeed
> > > > > > >they and we all do, whether we wish to acknowledge it
or
>not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >By the way, are you familiar with the concept of the
>different
> > > > > > >archtypes within humanity? And their various pre-
ordained
> > >roles?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline
cardoso
> > >aveline"
> > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Vince,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Agnostics also do not play mind tricks
> > > > > > > > like the ones you said you play, or are playing,
here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World To Carlos- Concerning Vince
and
>Good
> > > > > > >Christians-
> > > > > > > > >Sorry, but I'm Agnostic
> > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:12:39 -0000
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >That's because I'm agnostic. I am not a
Christian.
> > >Please
> > > > >do not
> > > > > > > > >misrepresent me. I do not believe that a
cosmological
> > > > >supergod
> > > > > > >can
> > > > > > > > >be known by mortal humanity. Thank you.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline
>cardoso
> > > > >aveline"
> > > > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dear Vince,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cass is right.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What you do, according to your own words, does
not
> > >seem to
> > > > >be
> > > > > > > > >honest. Or
> > > > > > > > > > Christian.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hi there, I'm
Vince
>and
> > >I am
> > > > >new
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > >the group
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:44:49 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Manipulation
> > > > > > > > > > >Cass
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Vincent <vblaz2004@> wrote: Chuck-
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Don't worry. It all comes around again.
I'll get
> > >mine.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >I usually am committed to an intelligent
>discussion,
> > >but
> > > > > > > > >sometimes I
> > > > > > > > > > >intentionally throw an absurd statement into
the
> > >works for
> > > > > > >fun. I
> > > > > > > > > > >really don't mean to work people up, but some
>people
> > >just
> > > > >get
> > > > > > > > > > >absolutely offended if I venture to say
something
> > >stupid.
> > > > > > >Then I
> > > > > > > > > > >see the person's disposition when they either
>laugh or
> > > > >rage.
> > > > > > >A
> > > > > > > > > > >rather curious thing, don't ya think? What
might
> > >cause
> > > > >that?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@
>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 9:32:46 PM
Central
> > > > >Standard
> > > > > > >Time,
> > > > > > > > > > > > vblaz2004@ writes:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > And you fell for it? I'm surprised that
you
>would
> > > > > > >respond so
> > > > > > > > > > > > seriously to that, lolol. Satire. Irony.
> > >Sarcasm.
> > > > > > > > >Lighten up.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I did! Hook, line sinker and boat!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You got me good.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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