Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt01491)

It was a joke.  I don't drink either.  I think you're taking it way 
too seriously.  You're resorting to calling me a drunk out of the 
blue, because I'm a writer.  It sounds like a personality conflict 
to me, and something that you need to deal with on your own.

Vince

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Vince,
> 
> Sorry, I don't enjoy getting drunk with words or alcohol.
> 
> Silence is that which gives words and others  things meaning.
> 
> Carlos.
> 
> 
> >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:05:46 -0000
> >
> >Carlos-
> >
> >But it's Saturday.
> >
> >Vince
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Vince,
> > >
> > > No thanks.  I might get mentally drunk.
> > >
> > > Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> > > >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:22:00 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Carlos-
> > > >
> > > >No, I actually don't.  But I do think that some people can 
easily
> > > >get offended at other people's creative writing habits, if 
what is
> > > >written isn't quite what they want to hear.  Does that answer 
your
> > > >question?  I can elaborate in long stanzas for you if you'd 
like.
> > > >
> > > >Vince
> > > >
> > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso 
aveline"
> > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Vince,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, I've got a question.
> > > > > Do you believe that people can get drunk with words, as 
they
> >play
> > > >with them
> > > > > and get enthusiastic about their own abilities in making
> >sentences?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Carlos.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >Subject: Theos-World Carlos- The virtue of 
literal 'truth' and
> > > >the evil of
> > > > > >'nonsense'
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:47:00 -0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Carlos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm glad then that you didn't feel tricked.  Actually,
> > > > > >the 'nonsense' that I had originally presented was a type 
of
> > > > > >wordplay used somewhat as a literary device.  I forget the
> >exact
> > > > > >terminology for such a literary device, but it is often 
used
> >in
> > > > > >creative writing contexts, and sometimes even in debate or
> >common
> > > > > >discussion.  What in effect actually happened is that 
someone
> > > >(I'll
> > > > > >not name who) had hyper-literalistically strained my
> >wordplay, and
> > > > > >therefore had declared it to be 'absurd'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >For example, I may make a statement such as 'I ate a 
whole cow
> > > > > >today'.  And indeed such a statement is absurd, 
especially to
> >the
> > > > > >hyper-literalist.  Some literalists will actually be 
offended
> >if I
> > > > > >say that 'I ate a whole cow today', when in reality I did 
not
> >eat
> > > >a
> > > > > >whole cow today.  It vexes them in their respect for the 
high
> > > >virtue
> > > > > >of truth, and I am merely an ignorant purveyor of 
deceptive
> > > > > >falsehood to them, if I make such an absurd statement 
as 'I
> >ate a
> > > > > >whole cow today'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Now such a statement as 'I ate a whole cow today' is not
> > > > > >intentionally meant to manipulate or decieve, 
notwithstanding
> >the
> > > > > >fact that there are sometimes those literalists who will
> > > >inevitably
> > > > > >strain such a statement exceedingly, assuming that I 
actually
> >ate
> > > >a
> > > > > >whole cow, or that I believe myself to have eaten a whole 
cow.
> > > >The
> > > > > >hyper-literalist, when assuming ignorance in the other 
person
> >when
> > > > > >absurd statements are made, only vexes herself/himself,
> >because
> > > >pure
> > > > > >truth has not been expressed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Vince
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
> >aveline"
> > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vincent,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did not feel tricked. And I do not enjoy "judging
> > > >personalities".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just saw you said --  sometimes you write some 
nonsense
> >in
> > > >order
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > measure people's reactions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That tends to be seen as a mental trick.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In Theosophy, candidness, the ability to speak one's 
mind,
> >to
> > > > > >write what one
> > > > > > > thinks and to think what one writes, is considered to 
be
> >the
> > > >fuel
> > > > > >in the
> > > > > > > search for truth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Otherwise you get trapped in closed circles leading to
> >self-
> > > > > >delusion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ideally, there should be a sort of balance between 
words
> >and
> > > > > >silence.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All the best,  Carlos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: Vincent Agnostic?
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:56:59 -0000
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >You wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >"Agnostics also do not play  mind tricks like the 
ones you
> > > >said
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > >play, or are playing, here."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >In what way did you feel tricked?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I've often classified Christian fundamentalists as the
> > > >tricksters,
> > > > > > > >but I suppose anyone can do it, agnostic or otherwise.
> >And
> > > >indeed
> > > > > > > >they and we all do, whether we wish to acknowledge it 
or
> >not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >By the way, are you familiar with the concept of the
> >different
> > > > > > > >archtypes within humanity?  And their various pre-
ordained
> > > >roles?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline 
cardoso
> > > >aveline"
> > > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Vince,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Agnostics also do not play  mind tricks
> > > > > > > > > like the ones you said you play, or are playing, 
here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World To Carlos- Concerning Vince 
and
> >Good
> > > > > > > >Christians-
> > > > > > > > > >Sorry, but I'm Agnostic
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:12:39 -0000
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >That's because I'm agnostic.  I am not a 
Christian.
> > > >Please
> > > > > >do not
> > > > > > > > > >misrepresent me.  I do not believe that a 
cosmological
> > > > > >supergod
> > > > > > > >can
> > > > > > > > > >be known by mortal humanity.  Thank you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline
> >cardoso
> > > > > >aveline"
> > > > > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vince,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cass is right.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What you do, according to your own words, does 
not
> > > >seem to
> > > > > >be
> > > > > > > > > >honest. Or
> > > > > > > > > > > Christian.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hi there, I'm 
Vince
> >and
> > > >I am
> > > > > >new
> > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > >the group
> > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:44:49 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Manipulation
> > > > > > > > > > > >Cass
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Vincent <vblaz2004@> wrote: Chuck-
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Don't worry.  It all comes around again.  
I'll get
> > > >mine.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >I usually am committed to an intelligent
> >discussion,
> > > >but
> > > > > > > > > >sometimes I
> > > > > > > > > > > >intentionally throw an absurd statement into 
the
> > > >works for
> > > > > > > >fun.  I
> > > > > > > > > > > >really don't mean to work people up, but some
> >people
> > > >just
> > > > > >get
> > > > > > > > > > > >absolutely offended if I venture to say 
something
> > > >stupid.
> > > > > > > >Then I
> > > > > > > > > > > >see the person's disposition when they either
> >laugh or
> > > > > >rage.
> > > > > > > >A
> > > > > > > > > > > >rather curious thing, don't ya think?  What 
might
> > > >cause
> > > > > >that?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@
> >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 9:32:46 PM 
Central
> > > > > >Standard
> > > > > > > >Time,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > vblaz2004@ writes:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > And you  fell for it?  I'm surprised that 
you
> >would
> > > > > > > >respond so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > seriously to  that, lolol.  Satire.  Irony.
> > > >Sarcasm.
> > > > > > > > > >Lighten  up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I did!  Hook, line sinker and boat!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You got me good.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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