Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt01435)

No, I actually don't.  But I do think that some people can easily 
get offended at other people's creative writing habits, if what is 
written isn't quite what they want to hear.  Does that answer your 
question?  I can elaborate in long stanzas for you if you'd like.

Vince

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Vince,
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> By the way, I've got a question.
> Do you believe that people can get drunk with words, as they play 
with them 
> and get enthusiastic about their own abilities in making sentences?
> 
> Regards, Carlos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World Carlos- The virtue of literal 'truth' and 
the evil of 
> >'nonsense'
> >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:47:00 -0000
> >
> >Carlos
> >
> >I'm glad then that you didn't feel tricked.  Actually,
> >the 'nonsense' that I had originally presented was a type of
> >wordplay used somewhat as a literary device.  I forget the exact
> >terminology for such a literary device, but it is often used in
> >creative writing contexts, and sometimes even in debate or common
> >discussion.  What in effect actually happened is that someone 
(I'll
> >not name who) had hyper-literalistically strained my wordplay, and
> >therefore had declared it to be 'absurd'.
> >
> >For example, I may make a statement such as 'I ate a whole cow
> >today'.  And indeed such a statement is absurd, especially to the
> >hyper-literalist.  Some literalists will actually be offended if I
> >say that 'I ate a whole cow today', when in reality I did not eat 
a
> >whole cow today.  It vexes them in their respect for the high 
virtue
> >of truth, and I am merely an ignorant purveyor of deceptive
> >falsehood to them, if I make such an absurd statement as 'I ate a
> >whole cow today'.
> >
> >Now such a statement as 'I ate a whole cow today' is not
> >intentionally meant to manipulate or decieve, notwithstanding the
> >fact that there are sometimes those literalists who will 
inevitably
> >strain such a statement exceedingly, assuming that I actually ate 
a
> >whole cow, or that I believe myself to have eaten a whole cow.  
The
> >hyper-literalist, when assuming ignorance in the other person when
> >absurd statements are made, only vexes herself/himself, because 
pure
> >truth has not been expressed.
> >
> >Vince
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Vincent,
> > >
> > > I did not feel tricked. And I do not enjoy "judging 
personalities".
> > >
> > > I just saw you said --  sometimes you write some nonsense in 
order
> >to
> > > measure people's reactions.
> > >
> > > That tends to be seen as a mental trick.
> > >
> > > In Theosophy, candidness, the ability to speak one's mind, to
> >write what one
> > > thinks and to think what one writes, is considered to be the 
fuel
> >in the
> > > search for truth.
> > >
> > > Otherwise you get trapped in closed circles leading to self-
> >delusion.
> > >
> > > Ideally, there should be a sort of balance between words and
> >silence.
> > >
> > > All the best,  Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: Vincent Agnostic?
> > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:56:59 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Carlos-
> > > >
> > > >You wrote:
> > > >
> > > >"Agnostics also do not play  mind tricks like the ones you 
said
> >you
> > > >play, or are playing, here."
> > > >
> > > >In what way did you feel tricked?
> > > >
> > > >I've often classified Christian fundamentalists as the 
tricksters,
> > > >but I suppose anyone can do it, agnostic or otherwise.  And 
indeed
> > > >they and we all do, whether we wish to acknowledge it or not.
> > > >
> > > >By the way, are you familiar with the concept of the different
> > > >archtypes within humanity?  And their various pre-ordained 
roles?
> > > >
> > > >Vince
> > > >
> > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso 
aveline"
> > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Vince,
> > > > >
> > > > > Agnostics also do not play  mind tricks
> > > > > like the ones you said you play, or are playing, here.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Carlos.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >Subject: Theos-World To Carlos- Concerning Vince and Good
> > > >Christians-
> > > > > >Sorry, but I'm Agnostic
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:12:39 -0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >That's because I'm agnostic.  I am not a Christian.  
Please
> >do not
> > > > > >misrepresent me.  I do not believe that a cosmological
> >supergod
> > > >can
> > > > > >be known by mortal humanity.  Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Vince
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
> >aveline"
> > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Vince,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cass is right.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What you do, according to your own words, does not 
seem to
> >be
> > > > > >honest. Or
> > > > > > > Christian.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hi there, I'm Vince and 
I am
> >new
> > > >to
> > > > > >the group
> > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:44:49 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Manipulation
> > > > > > > >Cass
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Vincent <vblaz2004@> wrote: Chuck-
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Don't worry.  It all comes around again.  I'll get 
mine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I usually am committed to an intelligent discussion, 
but
> > > > > >sometimes I
> > > > > > > >intentionally throw an absurd statement into the 
works for
> > > >fun.  I
> > > > > > > >really don't mean to work people up, but some people 
just
> >get
> > > > > > > >absolutely offended if I venture to say something 
stupid.
> > > >Then I
> > > > > > > >see the person's disposition when they either laugh or
> >rage.
> > > >A
> > > > > > > >rather curious thing, don't ya think?  What might 
cause
> >that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 9:32:46 PM Central
> >Standard
> > > >Time,
> > > > > > > > > vblaz2004@ writes:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And you  fell for it?  I'm surprised that you would
> > > >respond so
> > > > > > > > > seriously to  that, lolol.  Satire.  Irony.  
Sarcasm.
> > > > > >Lighten  up.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, I did!  Hook, line sinker and boat!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You got me good.
> > > > > > > > >
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