On Another Way to Get Drunk
Mar 24, 2006 10:53 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline
Vince,
Thanks.
By the way, I've got a question.
Do you believe that people can get drunk with words, as they play with them
and get enthusiastic about their own abilities in making sentences?
Regards, Carlos.
From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World Carlos- The virtue of literal 'truth' and the evil of
'nonsense'
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:47:00 -0000
Carlos
I'm glad then that you didn't feel tricked. Actually,
the 'nonsense' that I had originally presented was a type of
wordplay used somewhat as a literary device. I forget the exact
terminology for such a literary device, but it is often used in
creative writing contexts, and sometimes even in debate or common
discussion. What in effect actually happened is that someone (I'll
not name who) had hyper-literalistically strained my wordplay, and
therefore had declared it to be 'absurd'.
For example, I may make a statement such as 'I ate a whole cow
today'. And indeed such a statement is absurd, especially to the
hyper-literalist. Some literalists will actually be offended if I
say that 'I ate a whole cow today', when in reality I did not eat a
whole cow today. It vexes them in their respect for the high virtue
of truth, and I am merely an ignorant purveyor of deceptive
falsehood to them, if I make such an absurd statement as 'I ate a
whole cow today'.
Now such a statement as 'I ate a whole cow today' is not
intentionally meant to manipulate or decieve, notwithstanding the
fact that there are sometimes those literalists who will inevitably
strain such a statement exceedingly, assuming that I actually ate a
whole cow, or that I believe myself to have eaten a whole cow. The
hyper-literalist, when assuming ignorance in the other person when
absurd statements are made, only vexes herself/himself, because pure
truth has not been expressed.
Vince
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
>
> Vincent,
>
> I did not feel tricked. And I do not enjoy "judging personalities".
>
> I just saw you said -- sometimes you write some nonsense in order
to
> measure people's reactions.
>
> That tends to be seen as a mental trick.
>
> In Theosophy, candidness, the ability to speak one's mind, to
write what one
> thinks and to think what one writes, is considered to be the fuel
in the
> search for truth.
>
> Otherwise you get trapped in closed circles leading to self-
delusion.
>
> Ideally, there should be a sort of balance between words and
silence.
>
> All the best, Carlos.
>
>
> >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World Re: Vincent Agnostic?
> >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:56:59 -0000
> >
> >Carlos-
> >
> >You wrote:
> >
> >"Agnostics also do not play mind tricks like the ones you said
you
> >play, or are playing, here."
> >
> >In what way did you feel tricked?
> >
> >I've often classified Christian fundamentalists as the tricksters,
> >but I suppose anyone can do it, agnostic or otherwise. And indeed
> >they and we all do, whether we wish to acknowledge it or not.
> >
> >By the way, are you familiar with the concept of the different
> >archtypes within humanity? And their various pre-ordained roles?
> >
> >Vince
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vince,
> > >
> > > Agnostics also do not play mind tricks
> > > like the ones you said you play, or are playing, here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Carlos.
> > >
> > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Theos-World To Carlos- Concerning Vince and Good
> >Christians-
> > > >Sorry, but I'm Agnostic
> > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:12:39 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Carlos-
> > > >
> > > >That's because I'm agnostic. I am not a Christian. Please
do not
> > > >misrepresent me. I do not believe that a cosmological
supergod
> >can
> > > >be known by mortal humanity. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >Vince
> > > >
> > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
aveline"
> > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Vince,
> > > > >
> > > > > Cass is right.
> > > > >
> > > > > What you do, according to your own words, does not seem to
be
> > > >honest. Or
> > > > > Christian.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Carlos.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hi there, I'm Vince and I am
new
> >to
> > > >the group
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:44:49 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Manipulation
> > > > > >Cass
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Vincent <vblaz2004@> wrote: Chuck-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Don't worry. It all comes around again. I'll get mine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I usually am committed to an intelligent discussion, but
> > > >sometimes I
> > > > > >intentionally throw an absurd statement into the works for
> >fun. I
> > > > > >really don't mean to work people up, but some people just
get
> > > > > >absolutely offended if I venture to say something stupid.
> >Then I
> > > > > >see the person's disposition when they either laugh or
rage.
> >A
> > > > > >rather curious thing, don't ya think? What might cause
that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Vince
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 9:32:46 PM Central
Standard
> >Time,
> > > > > > > vblaz2004@ writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And you fell for it? I'm surprised that you would
> >respond so
> > > > > > > seriously to that, lolol. Satire. Irony. Sarcasm.
> > > >Lighten up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, I did! Hook, line sinker and boat!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You got me good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chuck the heretic
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