Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00565)

Anand
      it is not Lian's fault, that he had lumped you in with the Adyar. it is your thinking which provokes that. Steve

Anand Gholap <AnandGholap@AnandGholap.org> wrote:
  Iain,
I never said I am talking on behalf of Adyar TS, because I don't 
represent any organization. All my views are my own. I use my own 
best judgement about what is truth and speak it as I have freedom of 
expression. It is rather strange that you formed relation between my 
views with official policy of TS, Adyar. There is no connection. 

Anand Gholap

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Iain" wrote:
>
> Annand is not the spokesperson of Adyar TS and has no authority to 
speak on 
> topics on their behalf. Any comments that Annand are his own, and 
are not 
> the view of the TS HQ at Aydar. He must not put forward views in 
such a 
> manner that it appears to be official or semi official policy. Do 
do so is 
> incorrect and improper.
> cheers Iain
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Hejka-Ekins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Pasadena TS tell lies under the 
name of 
> Esoteric Instructions ?
> 
> 
> > Dear Anand,
> >
> >>That is true. All organization have some corrupt people. But it 
is
> >>the degree that matters. Adyar TS also has it, but less.
> >>
> > Since you have not personally worked with the leaders and 
members of any
> > Theosophical Organizations except Adyar, you have no first hand
> > experience from which to make such an evaluation. Why do you 
speak of
> > such things that you yourself do not know?
> >
> >>My judgement is Pasadena TS or any other organization, except 
Adyar
> >>TS, was never considered as Theosophical Society by the Masters.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Have you studied the ES teaching of other Theosophical 
organizations? Do
> > you know individuals who have been trained in the ES of other
> > organizations?
> >
> >>Masters considered Adyar TS as only TS founded by Them.
> >>
> > Did a Master tell you this?
> >
> >>So other organizations will come and get vanished.
> >>
> > As so the Adyar TS is also vanishing.
> >
> >>ES was closed by Pasadena
> >>TS because it was never Masters' organization.
> >>
> > Did a Master tell you this?
> >
> >>Adyar TS continued because it has Masters' blessing.
> >>
> > Or the Master fled in disgust to leave it to die with the rest 
of the
> > Theosophical Organizations. Who are you to say which is the 
correct
> > interpretation?
> >
> >>Adyar TS is also not in best
> >>condition and I would expect it to improve in some areas.
> >>
> > Fellowship among their own members and altruism to all might be 
two
> > areas they could work on.
> >
> >>But it will continue as Masters have blessed it and will 
continue to work
> >>through it.
> >>
> > Do you know this from the Masters?
> >
> > Best,
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> > Anand Gholap wrote:
> >
> >>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Hejka-Ekins 
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Dear Anand,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>What is your conclusion after studying this subject.
> >>>>
> >>>My conclusion is that mistakes were made on both sides and a 
lot of pain 
> >>>could have been avoided. My other conclusion is that whenever 
there is 
> >>>money, property and influence, there are always individuals 
trying to 
> >>>keep control of it and others trying to get control of it. 
This seems to 
> >>>be universal--no organization is immune to this dynamic.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>That is true. All organization have some corrupt people. But it 
is
> >>the degree that matters. Adyar TS also has it, but less.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>If you have digital copies, send me or copy those things here.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>I'm afraid that Theosophical History is a copyrighted scholarly
> >>>journal. My position as an associate editor does not give me the
> >>>liberty to copy and post articles from it on the Internet. I 
am sure
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>that the Adyar Library receives a subscription to it, and you 
will be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>able to go through the articles there. If not, I will try to 
dig
> >>>through the back issues and find the articles and make a copy 
for you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>But I will have to work it in between other projects.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>There is no need of that. I will get it in future, it is not 
urgent.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well, a lot of things can be made of Long's actions. But you 
must keep
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>in mind just what power the ES represented. What I am saying 
is that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>certain individuals (a very small number), who were also in the 
ES, were
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>responsible for recognizing and affirming the successor. 
Purucker had
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>given them the necessary training and knowledge so that they 
would be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>able to recognize his successor. These individuals did not 
recognize
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Conger, Hartley or Long, because none of them gave the required 
signal.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>So, one could argue that the elimination of the ES was also the
> >>>elimination of those who opposed these leaders. In the long 
run, the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>consensus has been that the elimination of the ES was a good 
thing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Emmett Small (who was the ES Secretary and opposed Conger etc.) 
remarked
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>to me on many occasions that eliminating the ES was a wise move 
and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>ought to be eliminated in all Theosophical Organizations. So, 
in this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>case, individuals on both sides who were in management 
ultimately agreed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>on this point.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>My judgement is Pasadena TS or any other organization, except 
Adyar
> >>TS, was never considered as Theosophical Society by the Masters.
> >>Masters considered Adyar TS as only TS founded by Them. So other
> >>organizations will come and get vanished. ES was closed by 
Pasadena
> >>TS because it was never Masters' organization. Adyar TS continued
> >>because it has Masters' blessing. Adyar TS is also not in best
> >>condition and I would expect it to improve in some areas. But it
> >>will continue as Masters have blessed it and will continue to 
work
> >>through it.
> >>AG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Anand Gholap wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Dear Jerry,
> >>>>Regarding the Purucker-Conger-Hartley-Long
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>situation, I have in my archives thousands of unpublished
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>documents including letters, minutes of meetings, diary entries 
etc.
> >>concerning this sequence of events. I have also, over the years,
> >>personally
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>interviewed many of the people involved concerning it, 
including
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>Emmett Small, Kirby van Mater, and Judith Tyberg.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>What is your conclusion after studying this subject.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>If you ever come to the
> >>>>>United States, you are welcome to visit us, examine the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>documents,and come to your own conclusions.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>I would like to visit and see the documents and other good work
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>you
> >>
> >>
> >>>>are doing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>In the mean time, there is in the back issues of Theosophical
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>History an article on Conger by Alan Donant and a reply by 
Kenneth
> >>Small which addresses many of the issues and should give you a 
feel
> >>for the opposing views on this issue.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>If you have digital copies, send me or copy those things here.
> >>>>
> >>>>One would have to appreciate courage of James Long. It was not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>easy
> >>
> >>
> >>>>to boldly tell people that ES did not exist of which he was
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>head.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>It must have been against popular ideas. Especially people in
> >>>>management generally like to keep holding to power and they 
could
> >>>>have opposed James Long when he removed that power.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>AG
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Anand Gholap wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Dear Jerry,
> >>>>>>Thanks for info. You said you found honest students in all
> >>>>>>organization. That is true but point I wrote is different.
> >>>>>>You wrote implying members belong to, are and should be loyal
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>to
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>their organization. Fact is there is no one organization to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>which
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>serious students belong. Their goal should be to find the 
truth
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>from
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>all sources and organizations. Loyalty should be to truth and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>it
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>should not be blind supporting of organizations of which a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>person
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>member.
> >>>>>>My question is still not answered. So it is being written
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>again.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>Let us analyse facts given in message 30270.
> >>>>>>Purucker wrote in ES circular
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>if within three months after
> >>>>>>>de Purucker's death or disappearance no-one could give "the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>proper
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>proofs of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>spiritual leadership", "then you will know that you have
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>failed".
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>No such leader or Outer Head of ES emerged, which meant
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>Pasadena
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>TS
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>failed, there was no ES after Purucker's death and so there 
was
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>no
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>Outer Head of ES in Pasadena TS. Despite these specific
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>directions,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>in 1945, Conger claimed to be the Outer Head of the Esoteric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>School
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>which had ceased to exist. He appointed William Hartley as
> >>>>>>successor, cabinet rejected him and appointed James Long as
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>leader
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>in 1951. James Long closed ES and told that Purucker had 
already
> >>>>>>stopped ES instructions in 1939. Does that mean Pasadena TS 
told
> >>>>>>lies during 1939 to 1951 under the name of Esoteric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>Instructions ?
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>AG
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Hejka-Ekins 
> >>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Dear Anand, Friends,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Let's put it this way: in 1895, those who felt lied to, 
sided
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>with
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>either Besant or Judge, depending upon who they believed was
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>telling the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>truth. Accordingly, those who felt lied in in 1945-46, 
sided
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>with
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>either Conger, or with the dissenting Board members, 
depending
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>upon who
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>they believed was telling the truth. In 1951, those who 
felt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>lied
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>sided with either Long or with Hartley, depending 
upon...well,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>know....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>By 1931 there were dozens of "Theosophical" organizations
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>populated by
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Theosophists who believed that they have been lied to. Who 
is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>going to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>cut through the Gordian knot and tell us who are the liars 
and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>who
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>are
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>the truth tellers?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I have met the leaders of all these factions and others too.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>They
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>strike me as sincere and dedicated people trying to 
promulgate
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Theosophy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>to the best of their ability. Isn't that good enough?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Perhaps the Theosophical Movement is better off with its
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>multitude
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>expressions coming from many organizations. Now, students 
of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Theosophy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>have different schools to compare. They can choose the one
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>(on
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>ones)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>which best meet their temperament.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I submit that the most constructive thing a member of a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Theosophical
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>organization can do is to keep an eye on their own
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>organization
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>and make
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>sure that those in charge are being honest. Let the members
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>of
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>other
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>organizations keep watch on their own leaders.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Best
> >>>>>>>Jerry
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Anand Gholap wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Let us analyse facts given in message 30270.
> >>>>>>>>Purucker wrote in ES circular
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>if within three months after
> >>>>>>>>>de Purucker's death or disappearance no-one could 
give "the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>proper
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>proofs of
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>spiritual leadership", "then you will know that you have
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>failed".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>No such leader or Outer Head of ES emerged, which meant
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>Pasadena
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>TS
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>failed, there was no ES after Purucker's death and so there
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>was
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>no
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Outer Head of ES in Pasadena TS. Despite these specific
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>directions,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>in 1945, Conger claimed to be the Outer Head of the 
Esoteric
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>School
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>which had ceased to exist. He appointed William Hartley as
> >>>>>>>>successor, cabinate rejected him and appointed James Long 
as
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>leader
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>in 1951. James Long closed ES and told that Purucker had
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>already
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>stopped ES instructions in 1939. Does that mean Pasadena TS
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>told
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>lies during 1939 to 1951 under the name of Esoteric
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>Instructions ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>AG
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, gregory@ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>In response to Damian's request for information on the Pt
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Loma/Pasadena ES I am
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>sending a summary of a section from a paper I gave at a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Thosophical history
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>conference in California many years ago. It comes from a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>study
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>secret
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>societies and esoteric groups within the Theosophical
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>movement.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>hope to
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>complete the work for publication one day.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Dr Gregory Tillett
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>De Purucker died suddenly and unexpectedly on September 
27,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>1942.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>He had left
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>specific instructions regarding his successor: the 
successor
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>was
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>to "emerge"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>within three years after de Purucker's death, and would be
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>recognized by "the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>proper proofs of spiritual leadership". During those 
three
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>years,
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>the Society
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>was to be ruled by a Cabinet. If no Head emerged, then 
the
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