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Re: Impersonal Suspicions on Daniel

Mar 04, 2006 06:59 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline




Leonardo,


Suspicions about Daniel are not personal.

They have been circulating for some years among experienced theosophists and none of them, as long as I know, doubted the theory according to which Daniel has been inventing false persons for his own reasons and motives, especially to help himself attack some theosophical blanks.

Now he has the opportunity to answer to such a general evaluation about him.

Regards, Carlos.


From: leonmaurer@aol.com
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Impersonal Suspicions on Daniel
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 00:26:51 EST

Carlos,

Your letter is just some more nonsensical excuses about your endless gossip
that has noting to do with theosophy. Nor does it answer the more important
questions raised by my letter.

You are the one who is doing it, and you are personally responsible for these
continuing public accusations criminalizing another person's rights --
whether they be for anonymity, actions or opinions you don't like, or silence in the
face of your groundless gossip... All of it based on hearsay and other non
evidence, that you, personally, intend everyone to overhear.

If this endless and repetitive barrage accusing other people by innuendo and
insinuation isn't personal, then what is?

All of what you write against others with such an obvious personal pique,
indicates that (besides being plain gossip which HPB abhorred) you put
personality before brotherhood -- which is as far from theosophical as anyone can get.

So, give it up, brother... You are merely adding food to the fire that paints
you out as a troll, and a busybody, as well as a disrupter of this
theosophical forum...

Besides just becoming tiresome beyond belief, we might all wonder for what
personal purpose this emotionally tinged "stoking" is being done?

Leonardo

In a message dated 3/1/06 11:52:45 AM, carlosaveline@hotmail.com writes:


>
> Leonardo,
>

> I only now see your posting below.
>
> I have the time to tell you one thing.
>
> Suspicions about Daniel are not personal.
>
> They have been circulating for some years among experienced theosophists and
> none of them, as long as I know, doubted the theory according to which
> Daniel
> has been inventing false persons for his own reasons and motives, especially
> to help himself attack some theosophical blanks.  Now he has the opportunity
> to 
> answer to such a general evaluation about him.
>
> Regards,  Carlos.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: leonmaurer@aol.com
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Did Daniel Committ Fraud?
> >Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:27:13 EST
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 2/25/06 10:27:48 AM, carlosaveline@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Dear Friends,
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, I am getting really curious about all of this.
> > >
> > > A lawsuit against Paul?  It might be most unlikely.
> > >
> > > Why not such a sub-threat as a way to try to bully people
> psychologically?
> > >
> > > You can bully some people all the time, you can bully all people for
> > > some time, but you cannot bully all people all the time.
> > >
> > > And I am still waiting for Danniel's clarifications. Maybe he is
> > > innocent?
> > >
> > > Really curious as Ethics is of the essence for us.
> > >
> > > Best regards,  Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> >So you say...
> >
> >And, how ethical is your continued hounding of Caldwell through not so
> >subtle accusative implications of his guilt by means of subtly sly reverse
> >innuendo's (not to mention your repetitive subject lines with his name
> >constantly being impugned) whenever you see an opportunity? 
> >  He may be innocent as you say,and undeserving of such treatment...
> >But in such a case, you certainly would not be in the eyes of any
> perceptive
> >theosophist on this list.
> >
> >What you are doing by such widespread and repetitive public disclosure of a
> >personal suspicion so as to influence the thoughts of others -- you call
> >"friends" (but whom are not necessarily so) -- appears to this observer to
> >be highly unethical, from both a legal and a theosophical point of view.
> >
> >In addition, passing the libel and slander buck back to Paul, as well as
> >adding further implications that Caldwell is a bully as well as a fraud,
> doesn't
> >appear to be so ethical either... Especially, when you are safe behind a
> >foreign border.
> >
> >In addition, your flooding of this list with your repetitive side issues,
> has
> >almost completely shoved the discussion of theosophy into the mud and
> >covered it over with slime in the form of gossip -- that would, in my view,
>
> >make HPB disown you as her chela (if you ever were or could be one:)
> >
> >So far, all you seem to be doing is dominating this theosophical forum and
> >spreading tension, apprehension, and dissension among its members.   (Not
> >to mention wasting my time reading and responding to your overly repetitive
> >and boring letters whenever they go beyond the boundaries of theosophically
> >useful or interesting information.)   Stating your opinions about long dead
>
> >teachers or members of this forum once -- is enough.
> >
> >Leonardo
>



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