Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00300)

I meant to say at the end of this message "the end justifies the means" 
instead of "the end is justified by the means."

--b

Bill Meredith wrote:
> carlosaveline cardoso aveline wrote:
>   
> > Dear Paul,
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > In the Mahatma Letters, T.U.P., Letter LII, p. 292, one of the Masters says 
> > that as they had allowed their names to be "dragged into publicity", they 
> > had to stand "offensive" articles, and so on.
> >
> > Ironically, he says, quoting Olcott,  that this was "the penalty of their 
> > (mudane, mayavic) greatness".
> >
> > So I do not think that your speculative and naive  books are quite the end 
> > of the world.
> >   
> >     
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> I would say that unless you are an exceptionally talented speed reader  
> you  have not read Paul's books yet and  so for you to judge them  is  
> an example of  lower self arrogance and self-righteous zeal that needs 
> to be contained by your  higher self.  Give your  Self  a chance  by  
> consciously  choosing  to  identify it.
>   
> > But for some reason your books have led you into some kind  of close 
> > association of such beings as "Daniel Green", John Algeo and other similar 
> > level "pundits".  This is for you to think, please. Meditate on that.  Every 
> > fact has at least one CAUSE.  I think the cause in this case is maya, 
> > self-delusion.  The must be something wrong in your navigation system" for 
> > you to have come into close relationship with a "intellectual" as "David 
> > Green" and to be used, as you described, by J. Algeo.
> >   
> >     
> This would be a far more effective discussion if you, Carlos, would 
> discuss how your past actions have brought into some kind of close 
> association with Daniel,  Jerome, John, Bruce, Paul, and now me.  
> Meditate on that.  Every fact has at least one CAUSE.  I think that the 
> cause in this case is your own self-delusion, but what I think is not 
> nearly so important as what you discover about yourself through 
> meditation and self-study.   There must be something wrong in your 
> navigation system for you to come on theos-talk and think that you can 
> tell other people what is wrong with them.  Tell us what is wrong with 
> you, my friend.  Then and only then will you have pulled the beam from 
> your own eye sufficiently to see others with any clarity.
>   
> > I also believe that you having had the courage and the character necessary 
> > to face and to confront Daniel and his tricks (IF he does not prove to us 
> > all this innocence or  "non-guiltyness"... ) ---  as well  as to bravely 
> > tell us about all your dealings with the TPH and J. Algeo, this, I say, 
> > shows that you can go beyond the point where you are now.
> >
> > Each step at a time.   Now you have done THeos-talk a great service.
> >   
> >     
>
> This is so much psycho-babble.  Your beliefs about Paul are founded on 
> the shifting sands of your own delusion.  Please restrict your 
> phycho-analysis to your own self.
>   
> > As time passes a serious debate as "where and how to investigate about 
> > Masters" can be held.
> >
> > The question, for theosophists, depends on vibration rates.
> >
> > Poetry cannot be experiened at the vibration rate typical of a box fight, or 
> > through the emotion of love for immediate personal money fame or personal 
> > power;  and Masters cannot be found by the methods you tried. Personal  & 
> > physical IDs  have nothing to do with Adepts.
> >   
> >     
> This is a one-sided view that does not even allow for the existence of 
> other perspectives.  It is anti-theosophical and harmful to the movement 
> to see such things in print.
>   
> > You did not reveal the Masters, then, but you revealed some important 
> > hypotheses about Daniel's secret activities, and you may have revealed 
> > fundamental aspects of the aggressive variety of neotheosophy and 
> > neotheosophists.
> >
> > I guess, though, that your dialogue with the theosophical movement is just 
> > starting and can lead you much beyond your books written so far and your 
> > present ideas -- once you but keep to the honest feelings in your heart and 
> > mind.
> >
> > Best regards,  Carlos.
> >
> >
> >   
> >     
>
> It is becoming clear that you are using Paul as the enemy of your 
> enemy.  I ask you to examine your own motivations in this regard and see 
> if you are not succumbing to the old and false notion that "the end is 
> justified by the means."
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> peace,
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> bill
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> p.s.   tell jerome I said hello.
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