RE: Theos-World Self-Intro, and disappointment
Feb 13, 2006 05:26 AM
by W.Dallas TenBroeck
2/13/2006 5:21 AM
Dear Friend:
Welcome to Theosophy
Welcome to our talkative company -- many fine minds and many opinions. We
seek those ideas that are useful and common-sense, and which balance our
daily realities with what humor we can muster in view of the fact that we
are, in fact, all, brother (and sister) immortals in essence. We cannot
"get rid of each-other," now, or in the future.
The "theosophical world" is a wide one. Tolerance of each other's beliefs is
basic to all, or we could not talk to each other. We can be at the same
time sympathetic and trenchant when an idea seems inaccurate. So we have
all to be resilient.
What we do have in common is a basic desire to find and use that which is
true and useful. If we find that someone seems to have developed a tangent,
or a bias, one or other of us is very likely to challenge it (not the
person, but the idea) in tones "loud and clear." This can often be quite
abrasive to one's pet ideas or beliefs. At that time we ought to sit and
examine them, and then return with questions that bring out the meaning (as
we may have misunderstood) of what the other says.
Our greatest barrier has been, and is, largely: language, as we have all
developed personal uses for words, and our ideas seem to be, different in
value. This can always be adjusted but, it takes time and patience.
In some cases the "history," or the "traditions" of the theosophical group
in which we have developed seems to separate those groups, but, a study of
the developing history of the Theosophical Movement (documents and events)
reconciles such differences. But, that is reviewing the past, and, is only
valuable to explain some trends we each carry and show.
The more we know, the broader the base of study and consideration, the more
stable is Theosophy found to be as a philosophy that considers all aspects
of nature, of life, and of development. In its consideration of human
psychology alone it outstrips and adjusts many aspects of Modern clinical
Psychology, -- I offer this as one instance. In another realm it is found
to delve into the sources of all faiths, sects and religions with a view to
seeking their common origins and thus reconciling them all--adding to the
understanding that leads to true tolerance.
In the original Theosophical literature written by Mme. Blavatsky you will
find wide ranging concepts of knowledge reviewed. Some statements conflict
with
Science, as she claims that ancient science shows a broader base than that
which is yet developed as our Science investigates Nature in many
departments. After all: Science seeks for those facts and laws that are
already existent in the complexities and relationships existing already in
Nature as a whole.
There is much more, as for instance, the concept of universal evolution --a
progress which involves every single living thing, and binds all together
into a vast "brotherhood," from the "atom" to the "World," to the Universe
as a Whole. It looks into the origins of intelligence in life and being,
and it considers their middle course in which we now find ourselves, and
finally it considers the eventual reincarnation of all this marvelous
complexity as a continuity which never ceases to be.
Hence immortality for the spirit/soul of each human, as of all "life-atoms
(Monads)" is a given. The Universe is run by Laws which are complex but
simple in their operations: each action, be it a thought or an impulse
leaves an indelible impression of its surroundings, beginning with our
selves, and thus we predispose ourselves to the personal nature which we
have.
The power of the will, based on individual intelligence and consciousness
allows each of us to choose his own future by decisions which are his, or
her, own. Thus universal evolution. This independence is said to be a
proof of the immortal Individuality, of the Spirit/Soul of each person.
It is an idea at least worth considering, as included in its purview is the
concept that each is individually responsible for such choices and acts as
they do, and this responsibility is inescapable (Karma) because of the
universal equity and justice that rules every aspect of Nature. There are
no "miracles," nor will "prayer" cause our making of the essential and
necessary restitution (or benefit) to vanish.
You observe that much seems theoretical and there is less in the nature of
"practical" matters discussed. This may be so, but the "theoretical," if
correct can lead to the practical, which is in the hands and subject to the
will/decisions of each person in the place where he/she lives and works.
For all of us, one primary duty exists: to learn what Theosophy teaches.
The applications then are obvious. A knowledge of such
theoretical/practical information can best be acquired by a careful reading
of Mme. Blavatsky's THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY (300 pages). This book offers a
good basis to secure information on all aspects of basic theosophical theory
and its practical application, as she devotes over 100 pages to both
subjects.
I am sure that you know most of this and I am only writing because you say
you are a new-comer to this our smorgasbord of thoughts and ideas.
"IDEAS RULE THE WORLD"
Let then discover true ones together.
Dallas
PS
These may help you:
U L T WEB PAGES AND ADDRESSES.DOC
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WEB RESOURCES THEOSOPHICAL [ July 2005 ]
Subject: INTERNET RESOURCES for Theosophical Literature and Study Meetings
WEB-PAGES of U L T s as of
and
Internet : CONNECTIONS TO THEOSOPHICAL RESOURCES
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Where one can obtain, read and down-load copies of Books
and Articles by H P B, W Q J and the Mahatmas.
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NOTE :
Please check these for accuracy and let me know if there are
any additions or errors.
D T B
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Internet :
CONNECTIONS TO THEOSOPHICAL RESOURCES
Theosophy Company, Los Angeles www.theosophycompany.org
245 W 33rd St., Los Angeles. 90007, U S A
www.ULT.org [or] www.ult-la.org
E-mail: inquiry@theosophycompany.org
Catalog of publications
http://www.theosophycompany.org/cart_other_books.html
[THEOSOPHY -- Bi-monthly magazine ]
PHOENIX ULT www.phx-ult-lodge.org/
Original Texts, etc. "on line"
BLAVATSKY NET -- New York http://www.blavatsky.net
NEW YORK, UNITED LODGE OF THEOSOPHISTS
E-mail: Uotownley@gmail.comUHH
www.Theosophynyc.org
www.ultnyc.org
MUMBAI (Bombay), U L T, India, www.ultindia.org
(Original Theosophical texts
reprinted in English)
[THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT
-- monthly magazine ]
THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS
www.theosociety.org/tupress/
tupress@theosociety.org
[ SUNSET, (monthly) and edited Theosophical Texts ]
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ATHENS, U L T, Greece http://www.ultathens.gr/
BANGALORE, U L T, India www.ultindia.org
CHENNAI, (Madras) U L T, India www.ultindia.org
MALMO U L T, Sweden www.teosofiskakompaniet.net
(Wadia Articles, etc )
MATUNGA U L T, India www.ultindia.org
MUMBAI (Bombay), U L T, India, www.ultindia.org
(Original Theosophical texts
reprinted in English)
LONDON, ULT U.K. www.ultlon.freeserve.co.uk
LOS ANGELES, ULT USA www.ult-la.org
www.theosophycompany.org
www.ULT.org
(Original Theosophical texts reprinted)
STUDY GROUPS nearby
Long Beach Study Group
Upland Study Group
MALMO, ULT (In Swedish) www.teosofiskakompaniet.net
(Articles in English by B. P. Wadia)
NEW YORK, UNITED LODGE OF THEOSOPHISTS
E-mail: Uotownley@gmail.comUHH
www.geocities.com/theosophycircle/
www.Theosophynyc.org
www.ultnyc.org
PARIS ULT (In French) www..theosophie.asso.fr
[Original Theosophical literature translated into French]
STUDY GROUPS (French language)
Brest Study Group
Dijon Study Group
Douala Study Group
Jacmel Study Group
PHOENIX ULT www.phx-ult-lodge.org/s
Original Books, Texts "on line"
SECRET DOCTRINE HPB
ISIS UNVEILED HPB
FIVE YEARS OF THEOSOPHY HPB, etc.
KEY TO THEOSOPHY & GLOSSARY HPB
MODERN PANARION HPB
THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY HPB
TRANS OF BLAVATSKY LODGE HPB
VOICE OF THE SILENCE HPB
OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY Judge
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS AT AN
INFORMAL "OCEAN " CLASS R C
POINT OUT THE WAY Ans. to
Questions at "Ocean" Class J G
BHAGAVAD GITA Judge
BHAGAVAD GITA NOTES Judge
ECHOES FROM THE ORIENT Judge
EPITOME OF THEOSOPHY Judge
LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME Judge
PATANJALI'S YOGA SUTRAS Judge
THEOSOPHICAL FORUM -- answers by Judge
DHAMMAPADA ( Footfalls of the Law ) Gautama Buddha
LIGHT OF ASIA, Arnold Gautama
Buddha
LIGHT ON THE PATH M C
FRIENDLY PHILOSOPHER R C
UNIVERSAL THEOSOPHY R C
[ For children ]
ETERNAL VERITIES R C
Teach. Manual for ETERNAL VERITIES
BECAUSE -- for Children who ask Why? R C
BOOK OF IMAGES Dhyan Garga
TELL-TALE PICTURE GALLERY
- Occult Stories by HPB and W Q J
History THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT ( 1875 - 1950)
350 + pages ($ 6.00)
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SAN FRANCISCO U L T ULTinSF@wbtv.net
SARASOTA U L T www.theosophyusa.com
THEOSOPHY COMPANY www.theosophycompany.org
www.ult.org
(Photographic and verbatim original Theos. Texts)
(Available in printed form.)
The SECRET DOCTRINE HPB
ISIS UNVEILED HPB
KEY TO THEOSOPHY HPB
VOICE OF THE SILENCE HPB
H P B ARTICLES ( 3 Vols. ) HPB
W Q J ARTICLES ( 2 Vols. ) Judge
A MODERN PANARION HPB
FIVE YEARS OF THEOSOPHY HPB, etc.,
TRANS OF BLAVATSKY LODGE. HPB
LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME W Q Judge
THEOSOPHICAL FORUM -- answers W Q Judge
THE DHAMMAPADA ( Footfalls of the Law ) (Gautama Buddha)
THE LIGHT OF ASIA (Gautama Buddha)
THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT ( 1875 - 1950) History
TELL-TALE PICTURE GALLERY -Occult Stories by HPB and W Q J
WASHINGTON, D. C. www.ultdc.org
United Lodge of Theosophists - DC
4865 Cordell Ave., 2nd Floor, Bethesda, MD 20814
www.ultdc.org
- (301) 656-3566
- email@ultdc.org
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OTHER SOURCES AND LINKS:
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AQUARIAN THEOSOPHIST ultinla@juno.net
archived www.teosofia.com/AT.html
[ Monthly magazine & Suplements,
Email - free]
BLAVATSKY NET www.http://www.blavatsky.net
[ Original Texts and Articles available for reading and
downloading Links - membership free ]
Talk list
www.blavatsky.net/member/membership_form.htm.
Newsletter (monthly) newsletter@blavatskymail.com
CONCORD GROVE PRESS www.theosophy.org/home.htm
[ U L T Santa Barbara,
VIDYA magazine and
Articles by B P WADIA, etc., on Theosophy )
www.teosofiskakompaniet.net
also:
BUILDING THE HOME by B. P. WADIA
MANAS MAGAZINE [1948-1986] www.manasjournal.org
[Available on CD:
Text, Index, Search engine ]
PHOENIX ULT www.phx-ult-lodge.org/
[ "On-line" reprints, of
SECRET DOCTRINE 1888 HPB
ISIS UNVEILED 1877 HPB
FIVE MESSAGES from HPB 1888-1891 HPB
FIVE YEARS OF THEOSOPHY articles HPB
KEY TO THEOSOPHY & GLOS 1889 HPB
LETTERS of HPB to A P SINNETT HPB
MODERN PANARION, A articles by HPB
THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY 1892 HPB
TRANSACTIONS BLAVATSKY LODGE HPB
VOICE OF THE SILENCE 1889 HPB
INDEX to The VOICE OF THE SILENCE
THEOS. ARTICLES & NOTES HPB, Judge, etc.
FRIENDLY PHILOSOPHER R C
ETERNAL VERITIES (for children) R C
BECAUSE -- for Children who ask Why? R C
UNIVERSAL THEOSOPHY R C
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS at an
informal "Ocean " class R C
POINT OUT THE WAY Answers to
Questions at an "Ocean" Class J G
OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY 1893 Judge
BHAGAVAD GITA (Krishna) rendition by Judge
BHAGAVAD GITA NOTES Judge
ECHOES FROM THE ORIENT Judge
EPITOME OF THEOSOPHY Judge
PATANJALI'S YOGA SUTRAS Judge
LETTERS THAT HAVE HELPED ME Judge
Answers in the THEOSOPHICAL FORUM Judge
SUBJECTS FOR DISCUSSION Judge
TWO ANSWERS [Judge Case] Judge
DHAMMAPADA ( Footfalls of the Law ) Buddha
THE LIGHT OF ASIA (Life & Teachings) Buddha
LIGHT ON THE PATH MC
Gods & Heroes of the BHAGAVAD GITA
History: The THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT ( 1875 - 1950)
UNITED LODGE OF THEOSOPHISTS :
Its Mission and Future
RUDY'S PAGE [Spanish] www.teosofia.com/
[Magazines reprinted:
THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, Bombay, monthly ]
http://www.teosofia.com/TTM.html
AQUARIAN THEOSOPHIST archived
www.teosofia.com/AT.html
THEOSOPHIA theosophia@yahoogroups.com
(Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)
THEOSOPHICAL LITERATURE
http://www2.widbey.com/TheosophicalLiterature
THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT Magazine
(reprints available) www.teosofia.com/
http://www.teosofia.com/TTM.html
www.ultindia.org
THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY PASADENA
www.theosociety.org
THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS
www.theosociety.org/tupress/
tupress@theosociety.org
[ SUNSET, (monthly) and edited Theosophical Texts ]
THEOSOPHY COMPANY, theosophy.company.org
Los Angeles www.ult.org
[ THEOSOPHY Magazine, quarterly ] and
[Original Theosophical texts Mme. Blavatsky, W Q Judge ]
www.theosophycompany.org/
www.theosophycompany.org/pop_up_htmls/texte_online.html
THEOSOPHY DISCOVERY CIRCLE
www.geocities.com/theosophycircle
[ Study and Discussion, New York City]
THEOSOPHY LIBRARY ON LINE www.theosophy.org/home.htm
[ U L T Santa Barbara, Concord Grove Press)
THEOSOPHY Magazine www.theosophycompany.org/editors
[ THEOSOPHY Magazine, Quarterly, Los Angeles ]
THEOS-TALK Theos-Talk@yahoogroups.com
(Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)
THEOSOPHY WORLD Theos-World@yahoogroups.com
[ Monthly Magazine, E-mail only]
VIDYA Magazine (quarterly) www.theosophy.org/home.htm
WISDOM WORLD www.wisdomworld.org/setting.html
[Reprints from THEOSOPHY Magazine - many topics
and subjects covered. Index available.]
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THEOSOPHICAL TEXTS ON-LINE
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BLAVATSKY NET www.blavatsky.net
[Offers access to all texts ]
MANAS MAGAZINE www.manasjournal.org
[Available on CD: Text, Index ]
PHOENIX ULT
www.phx-ult-lodge.org/
[Offers "Original Theosophical Texts"
for reading or downloading]
THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, Pasadena www.theosociety.org
THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS www.theosociety.org/tupress/
[Offers full range of Theosophical Texts]
THEOSOPHY COMPANY www.theosophycompany.org
www.ult.org
[Publishes full range of Original Theosophical texts,
Catalog available on request.]
THEOSOPHY-TALK Theos-Talk@yahoogroups.com
(Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)
THEOSOPHY WORLD Theos-World@yahoogroups.com
[ Monthly Magazine, E-mail only]
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ASSOCIATED SOURCES
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"Alexandria West" [ e-mail ] alexandriawest@charter.net
Australian sections (Adyar)
comprehensive reading list.
http://www.austheos.org.au/readinglist.htm
Blavatsky Archives www.blavatskyarchives.com/
Blavatsky Foundation www.azstarnet.com/blafon
BLAVATSKY NET www.blavatsky.net
Blavatsky Online Reading Room www.blavatsky.net/Caldwell/index.htm
BLAVATSKY TRUST (U K) www.blavatskytrust.org
CONCORD GROVE PRESS www.theosophy.org/home.htm
( Wadia articles reprinted, VIDYA Magazine, Santa Barbara)
EXPLORING THEOSOPHY
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5
FOHAT Magazine
E-mail: fohat@telusplanet.net
IN THE LIGHT OF THEOSOPHY
www.blavatsky.net/ezine/light/inthelight.htm
LUCIFER 7 [monthly - Adyar]
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/other/
MANAS MAGAZINE www.manasjournal.org
[Available on CD: Text, Index ]
MODERN THEOSOPHY
www.geocitieskatinkaHasselink/other/other.htm
POINT LOMA PUBLICATIONS www.wisdomtrations.com
QUEST BOOKS [T S Wheaton, Ill.]
http://www.questbooks.net/aboutquest.cfm
SPANISH www2.widbey.net/Theosophical Literature/espagnol.htm
www.Teosofia.com/PT.html
E-mail: pregunta@theosophycompany.org
T S ONLINE LIBRARY (Sta. Barbara)
www.theosophical.org/resources/library/webcat/index.html
THEOSOPHIA theosophia@yahoogroups.com
(Discussion exchange group - E-mail - free)
THEOSOPHICAL UNIVERSITY PRESS www.theosociety.org/tupress/
[Offers full range of Theosophical Texts]
THEOSOPHICAL PUBLISHING HOUSE, Wheaton, Ill.
[Edited texts] http://www.questbooks.net/aboutquest.cfm
THEOSOPHICAL RADIO http://www.theosophical.org/theosophy/radio/
TEMPLE OF THE PEOPLE http://www.templeofthepeople.org
WISDOM WORLD www.wisdomworld.org/setting.html
[Reprints from THEOSOPHY Magazine - many topics
and subjects covered. Index available.]
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THEOSOPHY FOR THE BLIND [Adyar]
THE THEOSOPHICAL BOOK ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND.
516 N. LUCAS DRIVE
SANTA MARIA, CA. 93454-3828
Dr. K. Elin (cell) 1-805-448-1424
e-mail cranwilliams@earthlink.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: theos T. H. Hauw
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:14 PM
To:
Subject: Self-Intro, and disappointment
Hi all,
My name is Hauw. I live in Singapore. The TS lodge here was formed by Col.
Olcott and 19 other people in 1889. I became a member in the beginning of
this year and subscribed to theos-talk at about the same time.
Like most people, I joined TS because I want to know more about the meaning
of life and want to increase my self-knowledge and awareness further. I am
waiting for a basic course on Theosophy to commence in March at our lodge.
Meanwhile I am searching high and low to have a better understanding of
Theosophy. So far, I must say that most of the material (incl. most from
this discussion group) that I have come across are too wordy and difficult
to absorb. Can anyone recommend any beginners books written by modern-day
writers?
It's also confusing. I read that there are different lineages e.g. Annie
Besant (and CWL) of the Adyar TS and William Judge of Point Loma. A
university website even said that their teachings are different from the
original teaching of HPB in some areas. Then, after HPB many people also
claimed that they have contact with the Masters. Finally I also read about
the charge against CWL concerning young boys.
So I joined theos-talk thinking that the older souls here might be able to
clear things up a bit. But alas that's not to be; there are just too many
unhealthy exchanges among some members here!
How are new students of Theosophy to make sense out of all the above? We
don't want to dogmatise or institutionalise TS, it's not a religion. But I
wonder if some form of agreed framework, guidelines or decision-making
process would be better to the cause of Theosophy?
I also came across postings here which I think (I may be wrong) is on
Hinduism teachings. I don't think Theosophy is entirely the same as Hinduism
or Buddhism; is there any form of moderation here?
Cheers
T H Hauw
P.S. When responding to a post, can members try to delete the original
content, save those points that they are responding to, before sending? That
way, all the postings will be neater and easier to read.
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