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Theosophy Takes It All

Feb 07, 2006 05:10 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline




Dear MKR,

Altholugh there may be an enriching difference in perspective, we fundamentally agree. We should not try to eliminate from the theosophical movement the internet, nor to eliminate from it the physical and daily aspects of life, which naturally include roofs, houses, physical bodies, family, physical buildings and books and other "personal" relationships. Theosophy takes it all -- because it is an all-embracing "philosophy", a word meaning love-for-wisdom.

Thanks and greetings, Carlos.




From: M K Ramadoss <mkr777@gmail.com>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Narada TS Lessons
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:40:40 -0600

Thanks for your feedback.

Unless we incorporate in our daily lives what we learn from being exposed to
theosophy, we cannot benefit and grow . All personal and social interaction
is part of our daily lives and as such we cannot ignore them. On the other
hand, when the TS was launched, formation of physical centers/lodges was the
only way to bring together individuals who may have interest in theosophy
and hence it served its purpose extremely well. Now that Internet is
available as a means of bringing individuals together, it is my view that
old format of physical centers is no longer an effective tool for spreading
theosophy.

Added to this issue, is the question of leadership of the organizations.
Historically, vigorous and upcoming movements are lead by individuals in
their prime of life. Older individuals may have worldly knowledge and
experience, but not necessarily the drive needed for a growing organization.
The typical example is TS itself. HPB, Olcott and Judge were all in their
prime of life. Lord Jesus and Lord Buddha, Lord Shankaracharya were all
young in their prime. We can find more examples.

While the above observation is my humble one, time will definitely tell.
Hope we all live long enough to see the future trend.

MKR


On 2/6/06, carlosaveline cardoso aveline <carlosaveline@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear MKR,
>
>
> You are absolutely right.
>
> At the same time, for Theosophy to be a living
> power in our lives it must be connected with our daily lives, including
> our
> social mechanisms of mutual help.
>
> The theosophical movement is a wide field in which we can test our
> theoretical philosophy of life. If we fail to create healthy mechanisms
> for
> mutual help and can't even manage real-estate property without wild
> power struggle, as imay be the case with Adyar, than this is not
> necessarily
> a reason to stop interacting in daily life and keep all contacts to
> Internet.
>
> It could also be seen as a reason to learn the lessons from the failures
> and
> to try again -- and keep trying.
>
> In our personal families we also have to learn to cooperate in daily
> life,
> including house management and money management. Why should we not,
> as fellow students, TRY to build healthy mutual help mechanisms which
> include
> physical meetings, a place for them, editting books etc.??
>
> The Internet may be a wider horizon for perceiving all of this.
>
> Every challenge is a source of inner learning. There are lessons to be
> learned
> from the Narada TS episode, for instance. Among them, the importance of
> action,
> of resistance, and of solidarity.
>
> I am sure the solidarity the Narada TS students are receiving is making
> a difference. And the Adyar power-mechanisms are getting clearer
> and clearer, which is good for us -- and also for every sincere student in
> Adyar itself (they exist).
>
> Regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: M K Ramadoss <mkr777@gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Persecution of the Narada Lodge
> >Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 06:41:41 -0600
> >
> >As I had already once mentioned, issues like this has all to do with
> money
> >and property of the entity and nothing to do with theosophy at all. For
> >newcomers to theosophy, they will wonder at the chasm between such
> actions
> >and what theosophy really means and it can discourage many newcomers.
> >
> >Instances like this is one of the reasons why I feel that the time of
> fixed
> >physical theosophical centers is no longer an effective model for the
> >future and internet based model will be most appropriate. Once money runs
> >out, the physical organizations based theosophical entities will be
> >history.
> >Even great civilizations have disappeared when they time is up and why
> >should theosophical organizations based on physical centers and property
> >etc
> >should be exempt from such a natural extinction.
> >
> >mkr
> >
> >On 2/5/06, Frank Reitemeyer <ringding@online.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dallas writes:
> > > The Narada issue in Tacoma Washington being just one of the
> reflections
> >of
> > > this corporate method of the T.S. in America. It immediately polarizes
> >in
> > > the way that the obortion issue does when made a political pawn.
> > >
> > >
> > > Any news about our Rebels against the darth Empire?
> > > Hope, Narada Lodge wins its struggle for life.
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
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> >
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> >Yahoo! Groups Links
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> _________________________________________________________________
> Com o MSN Spaces você divide seu blog, suas fotos, sua lista de música e
> muito mais com seus amigos! Crie já o seu espaço online e com seus amigos!
> E
> só entra no http://spaces.msn.com/
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