Theos-Talk Archives (November 2005 Message tt00086)

Hi, Paul:

While on the topic of litigation, I would like mention about the involvement
of well known members of TSA in the Co-Masonic litigation a few years ago,
which was appealed all the way to the Federal Appeals court which finally
affirmed the decision of Colorado Federal District Court.

The appeals court ruling contains a very well written history of the
co-masonic movement in the USA. One can access it at
http://www.kscourts.org/CA10/CASES/2002/07/99-1581.HTM
One can also google search with "Voirol v. American Federation of Human
Rights".

It may be noted that one of the Appellants in the case was Ms. Joy Mills who
was President of TSA as well as International Vice President of TS at Adyar.

Also to be mentioned is the litigation in the Dutch Section which Adyar
followers lost.


mkr

On 11/16/05, kpauljohnson <kpauljohnson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Doss, Eldon, and all,
>
> This recalls to me the fact that some years ago, after serving as
> National Secretary, Nathan Greer called the TSA a toxic
> organization. (IIRC-- the word used might have been pathological.)
> If this were an isolated incident, it wouldn't be so worrisome as the
> fact that it is a continuation of a long standing pattern. The
> Boston lodge case is a recent one in the American section, but there
> are also suspicious events in the 90s with the Danish and Canadian
> sections. In none of those instances however do I recall hearing
> details of subversion like those in this case. The obvious message
> is "if you don't submit to our will, we will destroy you."
>
> It seems as if the TSA cannot break the pattern of ugly litigation
> against local or national groups by national or international
> bodies. I had the impression that Betty Bland was a kinder gentler
> sort of person than John Algeo or Radha Burnier. But even if that is
> the case, there is a vortex of nasty energy in the TS that keeps
> sucking people into these awful confrontations between local autonomy
> and societal authority.
>
> Moreover, there is always secrecy surrounding the skulduggery. I
> read recently somewhere, maybe here, that TSA membership is down
> around 2500. Is that so-- loss of half the membership in 15 years?
> If it's true, incidents like this one go a long way to explaining why
> people choose not to renew.
>
> Paul
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, M K Ramadoss <mkr777@g...> wrote:
> >
> > It is a sorry state of affairs in that property/funds that are
> meant to be
> > used to further interests of theosophy being expended on attoneys.
> Anytime
> > one gets into litigation, both parties loose.
> >
> > mkr
> >
> > On 11/15/05, Eldon B Tucker <eldon@t...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I got a copy of the following message about problems at the
> Narada Lodge
> > > of
> > > the Adyar Theosophical Society (in Tacoma, Washington). After
> reading
> > > their
> > > web page describing the situation, at
> > >
> > > http://www.thetheosophicalsocietyinamerica.org,
> > >
> > > I wrote them to clarify what they said, and following is what I
> understand
> > > to be the situation.
> > >
> > > The branch was chartered in 1890, obtained a charted from the
> Point Loma
> > > Society in 1895, and got another from the Adyar Society in 1899.
> It
> > > preexists the Theosophical Society in America (in Wheaton,
> Illinois); its
> > > bylaws have never conformed; and it voted in 1989 not to change
> the bylaws
> > > to conform with Wheaton. It was asked again in October 2004 to
> change its
> > > bylaws, but declined, after which its current problems started.
> > >
> > > From what I heard, Wheaton declared four people who were not
> lodge members
> > > to now belong to the lodge, after which the four (along with a
> former
> > > lodge
> > > member) held a special meeting, electing their own officers for
> the lodge
> > > and claiming they now were in charge of the lodge and in control
> of its
> > > property. Their claim is being backed up with a lawsuit that
> presumes they
> > > now represent the lodge and are suing on its behalf the lodge
> leadership
> > > they say they voted out of office.
> > >
> > > Say I were a president of a theosophical lodge and found out one
> day that
> > > the national section had added new members to my lodge. These
> members have
> > > a
> > > meeting without inviting current lodge members, hold an election,
> and vote
> > > me out of office. They now sue me, in the name of the lodge, to
> turn over
> > > control of its assets to them. If that were to happen, I certain
> wouldn't
> > > feel very happy about the situation. I'd especially feel bad if
> my lodge
> > > was
> > > a separate legal entity from the national section and was
> chartered before
> > > the national section was created as a legal entity.
> > >
> > > Perhaps there's another side to the story that we've not heard
> yet, with
> > > further information that better explains what is happening and
> why it
> > > might
> > > be considered a good idea. On first hearing about it, though, I
> have
> > > trouble
> > > seeing how someone could see this as a good thing to be doing.
> > >
> > > Eldon
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Narada Theosophical Society [mailto:naradasociety@p...]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:58 PM
> > > To: phxultlodge@g...; mcdavid@u...; eleutherian51@y...;
> > > timestar@t...; cjraby@e...; epelleti@t...;
> > > theosnw@t...; editor@t...; AmSec@p...;
> > > fohat@p...; edbl1@c...; subaruza_31@h...;
> > > maurice.warnon@k...
> > > Subject: narada suit
> > >
> > > Wheaton sues officers of Tacoma Lodge on behalf of Wheaton's
> appointees.
> > > Please look at our web page,
> www.thetheosophicalsocietyinamerica.org<http://www.thetheosophicalsocietyinamerica.org>
> <http://www.thetheosophicalsoci
> etyinamerica.org <http://etyinamerica.org>>
> > > We at Narada Theosophical Society are only interested in one
> thing, that
> > > is
> > > the study of theosophy as presented by the Masters and early
> founders of
> > > the
> > > Theosophical Movement. We have offered to work with Wheaton, but
> not under
> > > them. We have been autonomous since we chartered with William Q.
> Judge on
> > > April 28/29, 1895 as The Theosophical Society in America. We
> rechartered
> > > with the American Section, Adyar again Jan. 1899, with a clause
> in our
> > > Constitution giving us legal Autonomy, which they recognized. We
> were
> > > members of both Societies at the same time. We have been asked
> many times
> > > in our past to change our bylaws by Wheaton, but have declined,
> so as to
> > > not
> > > lose our grandfathered in charters in the societies.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
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