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RE: a question for your question

Nov 07, 2005 04:03 AM
by W.Dallas TenBroeck

November 6, 2005

Dear Friend:

You ask: 

"I am new to this wonderful world. Wanted to know the effect of negative
though forms on physical body

thanks, piali"

One of the answers may be, in brief:  

It is something we all know deep within ourselves: The Voice of
conscience:" says: WHEN IN DOUBT, ABSTAIN."

If you know that there are "negative thought forms" then why are you or
anyone, curious about them?

If they are "bad" then leave them alone and spend your time thinking of
"positive thought forms." Do you know what they are ?

Here is sound advice from an older student:

" Follow the advice of the Sages. Meditate on the anomalies and
miseries of our civilization. Discover the root of its maladies. We find
that the human mind has triumphed be neglecting and defying the moral forces
which are at work in the universe. This is not generally perceived, and men
and their leaders alike are deluded. Each presumes that he and his nation or
class is following moral principles, while they are slaves of passions,
prejudices and pelf. 

Man, the thinker, has not been able to follow the teachings of a long line
of Sages which state: allow not the force of vice to lead your mind, but so
educate that mind that it follows the lead of the force of virtue. 

Knowledge bereft of love, of compassion, of charity, of harmony flourishes
and mass thought-action stifles the voice of Spirit even in the good

The Sages and Seers have warned against knowledge, reason and mind bereft of
moral principles. They have always taught the superiority of moral ideas
over mental thoughts. They have pointed to the truth of truths that Wisdom
is Compassion, that Justice is Mercy. Our Divinity is not knowledge-formed
but virtue-formed and our vices make us demoniac. Is there a better
description of the modern man successful in our social order than that found
in the 16th Discourse of the Gita? 

Illuminated minds, like Gautama Buddha or the great Shankara, have pointed
to moral principles as starting points to a life of peace, goodwill and
wisdom. Jesus, the Jewish Prophets before Him, and those who followed his
advice and instruction have emphasized the moral life as necessary for
gaining true knowledge. St. Paul affirmed the superiority of Faith, Hope and
Charity over all knowledge and in showing "a more excellent way" he exhorted
us "to covet earnestly the best gifts." 

Christendom knows Faith, Hope and Charity as theological virtues and there
are four natural virtues - making in all seven Cardinal Virtues, to which
are opposed the Seven Deadly Sins. It was probably Augustine who attempted
to Christianize the four Cardinal Virtues in the teachings of Socrates and

They are Higher Wisdom, Courage, Temperance and Justice. The Neo-Platonists
describe them as "purifications from the lower contagion." 

In the ancient Rig-Veda, virtue is given first place. In the famous hymn (X,
129) Kama-Love-Eros is said to be the first movement that arose in the One
after it had come into life through the power of fervour-abstraction. 

In the Atharva-Veda we find: "Kama-Deva was born the first. Him neither
Devas, Pitris, nor men have equaled. Thou art superior to these and for ever
great." The concept of Kama-Deva has become degraded in the course of
centuries, like the Eros of Hesiod. With the Seers of the Vedas, Kama-Deva
personifies, says H.P. Blavatsky, "the first conscious, all-embracing desire
for universal good, love, and for all that lives and feels, needs help and
kindness, the first feeling of infinite tender compassion and mercy that
arose in the consciousness of the creative One Force, as soon as it came
into life and being as a ray from the Absolute. There is no idea of sexual
love in the conception. Kama is pre-eminently the divine desire of creating
happiness and love." 

Kama-Deva, Eros, in their original pristine pure sense, personify the
archetypal Virtue. The Sages do not reject the idea that the virtue-vices of
the animal-man are relative. But those Sages teach that the relativity of
conventional morality befogs the mind and keeps man tied to the kingdom of
animal-man. To become truly human it is necessary to get hold of the
important philosophical principle that Virtues and Virtue are as definite as
metaphysical categories of Spirit, Matter, Mind; Light, Darkness, Sight;
Space, Force, Motion, etc. The animal-man becomes human by discarding
vicious tendencies and vices; and progresses to divinity by cultivating
moods of virtue which become his vibhutis - excellencies - fixed and ever
flashing their radiance of Compassion. 

This Compassion is the archetypal Virtue which manifests as a Trinity of the
Good, the True, and the Beautiful: out of the first come the moral factors,
out of the second the intellectual, and their joint action is regenerative
Beauty which is Joy and Bliss. 

Wisdom-Compassion is the Soul of all Virtues - be they the Christian and
Greek Cardinal ones, or virtues of the divine man of the Gita or the six and
ten Paramitas of the Buddhistic Philosophy. In the Mahayana Book of the
Golden Precepts this archetypal Virtue is thus described: - 

Compassion is no attribute.
It is the Law of Laws -
Eternal Harmony,
Alaya's Self,
A shoreless universal essence,
The Light of everlasting right,
And Fitness of all things,
The Law of Love eternal. 

I hope this advice proves to be helpful.


-----Original Message-----
From: piali 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: a question for your question

dear friends,
I am new to this wond

erful world. Wanted to know the effect of negative
though forms on physical body>

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