Theos-Talk Archives (October 2005 Message tt00088)

I took the time to look over the article and I think it's a fantastic discovery.

This reaffirms my old theory (which was stated in my introduction to
the list) that there's more that one layer of energy in the universe,
which I would assume correlates to Blavatsky's seven-fold universe.

This will be a great outlet to scientists today in order to begin
linking other phenomena to this almost "desire" of the universe to
exist. It could even bring about a new creation theory based on it. If
we were to look at it theosophically, however, which plane of
existance do you think the virtual particles exist in? Astral perhaps?
I would assume so, since the astral was looked at to be the original
blueprints, so to speak, of the physical universe.

I also believe if we were to look closer we would find even smaller
subatomic particles appearing as well.

Thanks for the article, Leon.

-Mark H.


On 10/16/05, leonmaurer@aol.com <leonmaurer@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi folks, (please ignore the previous accidental premature mailing)
>
> The following article (reprinted below) covering the latest findings in
> physics seems to be the beginning of the final proof of theosophy, as predicted by
> HPB to come around the turn of the 20th and 21st centuries. These findings --
> based on relativity and quantum theories in conjunction with the elegant
> mathematics of Superstring/M-brane theory and the ABC model linking consciousness,
> mind, brain, body, etc. with mass-energy or matter through fractally involved
> holographic fields within fields within fields in seven hyperspace dimensions
> -- will ultimately eliminate the last objection that theosophy is not
> scientific and does not teach the true nature of all reality... Extending -- from the
> zero-point through the seven fold inner (hyperspace) fields that are coadunate
> but not consubstantial (at varying densities and frequency energy levels) --
> to the vastness of phenomenal space that we each, as the microcosm of the
> macrocosm, can experience directly in its entirety, both inwardly and outwardly.
>
> The last aspect of reality that science has to accept to make it entirely
> consistent with theosophy is; That subjective consciousness (awareness-will) is
> the inherent nature of the ubiquitous zero-point of Absolute Space itself and
> is always separate from and beyond objective space and time... Yet,
> simultaneously arising with them at the primal beginning, along with the mind and memory
> fields -- that all originate from the initial angular momentum of the G-force
> or "spinergy" surrounding the primal zero point of origination -- as well as
> from every zero-point spread out through the "vacuum" (as science sees it) of
> our 3-dimensional metric space-time continuum. Thus, each of us, as individual
> self conscious beings is, fundamentally, a zero-point directly emanating from
> the primal zero-point. Incidentally, this is the root of the Buddhist concept
> of "Sunyata" or inherent emptiness and "Maya" or the illusory nature of all
> phenomenal things. Science sees the belief in the direct perception of the
> reality of things as "naive realism."
>
> The current controversies between "intelligent design" and "scientific
> evolution" is sign that the entire world is beginning to pay attention to these new
> discoveries.
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Lenny
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> A tool to measure what happens in empty space
> Oct. 14, 2005
> Special to World Science
> http://www.world-science.net/othernews/051014_emptyfrm.htm
> Physicists have devised a new tool to track what goes on in what we normally
> call empty space.
>
> An "empty" space is never truly empty, physicists believe, even if every
> atom and particle in it has been removed. This is because particles will continue
> to appear out of nowhere, then vanish.
>
>
> A MEMS, or machine whose parts are thousandths of a millimeter in size, with
> a spider mite strolling on it. (Courtesy Sandia National Laboratories)
>
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> In the new research, physicists report having measured this activity using a
> cloud of atoms that merge to effectively become one giant atom. This bizarre
> substance, called a Bose-Einstein condensate, was invented a decade ago but has
> found little practical use since then.
>
> The new findings, researchers say, mark the first time a Bose-Einstein
> conden been used to study anything besides its own properties. It was employed to
> investigate something perhaps even stranger: the so-called virtual particles
> that appear and disappear in the void.
>
> Engineers must take virtual particles into account as they design ever-tinier
> machines and robots, a growing industry. On small scales, virtual particles
> create unpredictable forces that can throw off these devices.
>
> In studying virtual particles, the researchers probed a phenomenon that seems
> to violate a physical law recognized more than two centuries ago: the law of
> conservation of energy.
>
> The law says energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It's also true of
> any object, because objects have mass, and mass is convertible to energy.
> Einstein showed this.
>
> Virtual particles get around this law thanks to a subatomic phenomenon called
> the uncertainty principle. Understanding the principle, as well as
> Bose-Einstein condensates, requires some explanation of the nature of subatomic
> particles.
>
> Particles and waves
>
> Scientists consider subatomic particles as things with two seemingly
> contradictory natures: they are both particles and waves. This is because they act
> like one or the other depending on the experiment one does.
>
> One can shoot them into a target like tiny bullets, in which case they act
> like particles.
>
> But they also move like waves: for instance, they create interference
> patterns. These are patterns similar to those that appear when one drops two pebbles
> in a pond. Complex ripple patterns will appear where the two sets of circles,
> each expanding outward, overlap.
>
> Physicists have found that subatomic particles' wave nature makes it
> impossible for the particles to have both a precisely defined location and speed. This
> ultimately lets them briefly appear out of nowhere.
>
> The effect is due to certain oddities of particle-waves.
>
> One of these quirks is that with particle-waves, unlike with water waves,
> there is no physical thing that actually "waves" or oscillates. With
> particle-waves, what oscillates is the probability that the associated particle will be
> found in one place or another when an experimenter looks for it.
>
> Physicists have no idea why any of this is so, or what it means. They've just
> found that it happens to work this way.
> Another unusual property of a particle-wave is that, unlike a water wave, it'
> s not a long series of ripples following each other like a parade. It's
> instead a group of just a few ripples bunched together, called a "wave packet."
>
> Mathematically, the only way to represent a wave packet is as a composite of
> many sets of waves, lined up so that their peaks and troughs cancel out
> everywhere except in the area of the wave packet. The resulting packet consists of
> one bigger central wave, with smaller waves in front of it and behind it, dying
> down with increasing distance from the central wave.
>
> Thus the wave packet has no precise location; it's a little spread out. By
> adding more overlapping waves, one can reduce this spread, though never
> eliminate it completely.
>
> Each of the many waves that go into a wave packet has a slightly different
> speed. Thus the wave packet itself has a range of speeds, which of course makes
> no sense if you think of it as a particle. But the wave nature of particles is
> like this.
>
> Uncertainties
>
> So not only does it have an imprecisely defined location, it also has an
> imprecisely defined speed. In fact, more precisely you define its location, the
> less precisely you define its speed—because you're adding more waves. The more
> precisely you define its speed, the less precisely you define its location—
> because you're subtracting waves and increasing the spread.
>
> The idea that there's no such thing as empty space stems from this finding
> that a particle can't have both an exact speed and location. A point of "empty"
> space is mathematically identical to a weightless particle with a speed of
> zero and a perfectly defined location, that being the point itself. This isn't
> allowed.
>
> Therefore, physicists postulate that empty space is actually full of
> subatomic particles that flash in and out of existence.
>
> This doesn't violate energy conservation because it turns out that the
> uncertainty in speed and position is translatable, mathematically, into
> uncertainties in energy and time. If a particle is short-lived enough, its energy can be
> so "fuzzy" that whoever or whatever enforces the conservation of energy law can
> 't detect a violation.
>
> Unfortunately, the fuzziness of virtual particles also makes them impossible
> to detect by any measuring instruments. Not directly, anyway. But
> circumstantial evidence of their existence is obtainable.
>
> One way to find this evidence is through an effect called the Casimir-Polder
> force. If an atom is very close to a flat surface, some particle-waves can't
> fit between the atom and the surface. Waves, in particular, need space.
>
> This means there will be a few less virtual particles to one side of the atom
> than the other.
> On the side with more virtual particles, it will "feel" a slight force
> pushing it toward the plate. This is because the virtual particles will be
> occasionally banging into the atom from that side, more often than from the other
> side.
>
> A related effect occurs when two flat plates are close enough together, in
> which case the plates will be attracted to each other.
>
> Physicists have trouble measuring these forces because they are so slight.
> But Eric Cornell and his colleagues at the University of Colorado in Boulder,
> Colo. reported last month they were able to measure the Casimir-Polder force
> using a Bose-Einstein condensate. The experiment, they added, may lead to new,
> more sensitive measurements of these small-range effects.
>
> Bose-Einstein condensates
>
> A Bose-Einstein condensate, like the Casmir-Polder force, exists thanks to
> strange laws of quantum mechanics, the physics of the very small.
>
> Normally, the atoms in a gas are scattered, bouncing around like ping-pong
> balls. But if the gas is cooled, the atoms slow down. Cooling it more makes
> their speeds approach zero. But this is a precisely defined number. Since the
> speed becomes better defined, each atom's location must become less defined. In
> technical terms, each atom's wave packet—the zone in which the particle might
> be found—grows.
>
> Make the gas colder and colder, and each wave packet starts to overlap with
> neighboring ones, growing until it envelops all the rest. Thus, all the wave
> packets overlap. If all the atoms are identical, the wave packets, and thus the
> atoms, can merge and become indistinguishable. They are all in the same place,
> have the same speed, and so on. They are like one atom.
>
> This is a Bose-Einstein condensate.
>
> Because a condensate acts like one atom, it feels the Casimir-Polder force.
> But since it's much easier to see than an atom, it makes that force easier to
> measure, said John Obrecht, a member of the University of Colorado team.
>
> As they described a paper published in the Sept. 15 issue of the research
> journal Physical Review A, Cornell and colleagues created a Bose-Einstein
> condensate shaped like a thin cigar. Using a magnetic field, they made it float a few
> thousandths of a millimeter from a flat plate made of silica. They then set
> it gently oscillating.
>
> Because the Casimir-Polder force tugged more strongly on the side of the
> cloud closer to the plate than on the further side, it disrupted the normal
> oscillations slightly. By comparing the oscillations with and without the nearby
> plate present, Cornell's team estimated how strongly the force was acting.
>
> This way they tallied the force at a distance of 5 thousandths of a
> millimeter, "significantly farther than has been previously achieved," the team wrote.
>
> The researchers said the work could aid in the design of
> microelectromechanical systems (MEMS), tiny electronic devices built at this scale or smaller, and
> used in industries such as medicine, automobiles and electronics.
>
> "Tremendous experimental progress in both ultracold atomic systems and
> microelectromechanical systems (MEMS's), has pushed both fields towards precise work
> very close to surfaces—regimes where Casimir-type effects become important,"
> Cornell and colleagues wrote.
>
> Maarten DeKievit of the University of Heidelberg in Germany said Cornell's
> approach is a good start towards getting more precise measurements of these
> forces, but needs more work to become useful.
> This is because the cloud in the experiment had just one shape, he said, but
> physicists need information to help them predict what would happen with any
> shape. The effects can be so complicated, he added, that results with one shape
> don't say much.
>
> "It's a very nice experiment," he said. "What you could dream of is if that
> they could change the form of the condensate" to get a range of precise
> shapes, he added. Then they could measure the force "as a function of shape."
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