Theos-Talk Archives (September 2005 Message tt00021)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, david-blankenship@c... wrote:
> It is the modern age. People want the needs assuaged 
immediately. 

Hi David,

Sorry but this is hogwash. People were languishing 5 days after the 
storm with no food, water, or security, waiting patiently for most of 
that time. Now that many are dead or dying from the criminal neglect 
and incompetence of this maladministration, you accuse them of 
untoward impatience?

> These are same people who ignored warnings a good four days in 
advance that this was going to be a killer hurricane: A once in a 
lifetime event. Unlike many hurricanes it varied little from its 
predicted path. No matter who is in power, relief takes time. 
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If all the news media could get in there days ago, so could the 
National Guard with water and food. Yes, relief takes time, but this 
is absolutely outrageous. Bush was down in Florida *two* days after 
their hurricane handing out water. Of course there he had a 
brother's reelection to worry about.

The reason no help came for so long? The head of FEMA was fired from 
his last, relatively penny ante job for incompetence. He and 
Chertoff did not know AS OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON about the thousands 
starving and dying at the convention center EVEN THOUGH THE NEWS 
MEDIA had been covering it for more than a day. The mayor of NO has 
made it clear that the Federal response to his and the governor's 
pleas for assistance has been abysmal.

Chuck might be right about the incompetence and bureaucratic bungling 
factors, but if tens of thousands of middle class whites were 
starving and dying in front of TV cameras, do you really think the 
response would have been so sluggish? So I see racism and classism 
as unconscious factors in this.

Blaming the victims for "ignoring the warnings" is a rather typical 
rightwing bullshit way to heartlessly dismiss the human tragedy 
unfolding before our eyes. People who were too poor to evacuate, who 
had no means to evacuate, had no choice of whether or not to "ignore" 
the warnings. And in a 2/3 black and extremely poor city, that was 
tens of thousands of people.

Paul






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> > I was also wondering why there is no help. At least in the news 
here it shows 
> > all the time the victims complaining that the government did not 
send help, food 
> > or medicine for them. 
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> > Erica 
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> > Frank Reitemeyer wrote: 
> > The hurricane destroyed a whole city. 
> > They get no help by the Bush administration since days, although 
there was a 
> > forewarning. 
> > No prememptive strike, no Navy, no army standing in the back to 
be ready for 
> > help ASAP. 
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> > The pictures of the destroyed cites in the New Orleans area 
remind a German 
> > theosophist to similar domestic pictures of 1944-45, when Jewish-
American 
> > freedom and liberty bombed destroyed Germany's cities (BTW, 
Wurzburg 
> > (Elberfeld), where HPB began to wirte her major work The Secret 
Doctrine was 
> > the city which was with 95% the relatively most destroyed one). 
> > The pictures of Berlin, Hambrg, Dresden, Cologne, Munich, Vienna, 
Pforzheim 
> > etc. come to mind. 
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> > Although the Germans suffered physically, they remained unbroken 
> > spiritually. The remedial actions worked. There was no chaos from 
within, 
> > everyone worked for the public interest. Egoism was the 
exception. This 
> > untold but remarkable behaviour is owed by the general high-
mindedness of 
> > the Germans and their high regards for virtues, which the 
governments of 
> > Bismarck, Wilhelm II. and Hitler strengthened. 
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> > What is the reason that such chaos, looterings, murder, rape, rap 
in New 
> > Orleans could happen? 
> > Is it the general cultivation of the lower self? The every day 
appeal to 
> > outsmart your neighbour, your colleagues? 
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> > No doubt, if such a cataclysm would happen in the Germany of 
today, I have 
> > no doubt that we would see the same pictures on tv. 
> > But the spiritual conditions were otherwise before the German 
soul was 
> > killed. 
> > One thing is certain: If that cataclysm would happen today on the 
German 
> > coast and there were no help from the goverment since several 
days - the 
> > chancellor would be kicked out of office by return. 
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> > Is not Theosophy and its appeal of Universal Brotherhood the 
spiritual 
> > antidot for this outbursts of the lower self? 
> > American patriot and theosophical Leader Katherine Tingley gave 
some 
> > practical examples with their Sisters of Mercy and other first 
aid actions 
> > to help victims of wars and cataclysms. 
> > Where are the Theosophists of today? 
> > 
> > The US Army has ordered a ban on leave for September. Is it that 
the new war 
> > against Iran is in its last phase of preparation? 
> > Was the Hurricane Katrina butting into the onrolling war machine 
and the GIs 
> > on the way to Iran have to be redirected? 
> > 
> > Is that the reason why the Bush government sent no troops to help 
the 
> > Americans in New Orleans? 
> > Because they are prepared to help (liberate) the Iranians? 
> > 
> > Or is it that it concerns only a poor Southern state? 
> > Do they just follow the Kissinger doctrine that they will get rid 
of the 
> > poor, stupid mob? 
> > Kissinger wants that 5 out of the 6 billions people of the world 
must be get 
> > rid of by violence to have a paradise in the aftermath. 
> > Do the New Orleaners die for the sake of the One World 
conspiracy? 
> > 
> > Questions over questions? 
> > Who is able to answer? 
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