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Re: Women in theosophy

Aug 14, 2005 01:13 AM
by Shel Steijl


ouch.

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From: Frank Reitemeyer <ringding@...>
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Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Does a Clone have a Soul?


> >Name one.
>
> Bart, did you ever hear of Thomas of Aquinas?
> He is called "church father" and his views were common shared - I think
> until today.
> Women were (or still are) connected with the evil.
> That was the rationale for the mediveal inquisition were mostly women were
> burned because it was believed that they have had sexual intercourse with
> the devil.
>
> Since I was contaminated with so many selfish and silly women in
> theosophical circles (at least here), I tend to believe the church is
right
> to assume that they have no soul...:-)))
> They do not want to think - what would not be the problem to me as such -
> but what makes it a problem is that they aggressively do not want that I
(or
> anybody else) in theosophical circles (and beyond) thinks. They only want
> blind, fanatic and uncontradicted worship of self invented theosophical
> myths without any source documents. For that reason they have destroyed
the
> archives (not the evil, evil Hitler) - motto: we are women, we have no
> duties, the Masters care for all, we must do nothing, except holding
worship
> meetings and chat and chat and chat until the end of the manvantara - the
> remaining German texts and english translations "improved", "modernized",
> which is in fact: faked and giving it the opposite direction.
>
> As like as on a party congress of the Communistic party they want that all
> have one opinion - of course the aggressive anti-HPB "spirit", which is
> labeled by them "following Blavatsky". That they call harmony (with their
> lower selves?), brotherhood (horrible, what they do is more a sisterhood).
> And similar to Communistic logic it is he, who talks within the TS about
> corruption, money manipulations, perversion of the doctrines, destruction
of
> the archives and other problems who is blamed for being a black magician -
> not he (or she), who does it. This aggressively behaviour results in two
> options: Shout your mouth forever and attend silent the hypocritical
> meetings (HPB said that wisdom comes only by silence, don't?) or you will
be
> kicked out - to protect the "white side".
>
> Never had women so much power in a national TS that in Germany after 1945,
> because of the historical events and the lack of potential male members.
> The result is a catastrophe. It is the most destructive, degenerated
> anti-spiritual era we ever had.
> All sane members in Germany in all lineages have left over the years this
> fanatical sects were only the lower self is worshipped and every spark of
> spirit is destroyed with the words: harmony, black magic, unbrotherly.
Real
> theosophists (compared with that what is inside) in Germany are outside of
> any traditional circle and mostly alone. No organized body in Germany
exists
> were HPBs spirit is alive. No outside interested person can be recommended
> any of this women groups, which make all sick and were truth is officially
> forbidden as the leading women always declare that either no truth exists
or
> no one has the truth or only the party liners, which are too stupid to
read
> and write a text in their mother language (or an English primary source),
> have the truth.
>
> Everyone can see on the streets here on the street that we have a rapid
> growing increment of black people here during the last years and the how
> easy (even if they look terrible) they get the young attractive, beauty
> German girls. I asked one and she said: The black men tell us women: You
are
> the most beautiful girl I have EVER seen, your eyes are like diamonds, you
> are sooo sweet, etc. and that's the reason why they prefer them in favor
of
> their compatriots. I answered: But they lie, it's not the truth, that
> jingles they tell every girl, but she replied: We women know that, but we
> like to hear it and therefore it troubles us not! That's the reason why
some
> idotic men - who think as a women thinks and whom Steiner called male
> aunts - who come in and brag: I have met Emmett Small, I am a chela,
> therefore all the silly pervertions of the holy teachings I make are the
> truth, etc. etc., are WELCOME by the women majority audience. It was so
nice
> tonight!!! He spoke so well? -- What did he talk about? What are his
> arguments? With with tenets he dealt? -- I don't know, but is was SO NICE,
> it was a good evening. --- I don't think so: He intermixed this and that,
he
> has never read our primary sources, 90 % of his talk was wrong --- Go
away!
> You are a trouble maker! We want harmony (with the devil)!
>
> By this analogy you can image how so-called theosophical meetings are held
> here: The party-liners make some most idiotic claims, about which any man
> with average intellect on his first meeting will laugh, and all believe
it,
> because they like to hear it: And because I like it, it is the truth. Or a
> truth seeker stands up and speaks a truth: The women will say: I don't
like
> him, therefore it is not true what he says!
> Quite clear: Only what I like is truth, and I like HPB, therefore the
> speaker is against HPB, therefore we have to fight against him: KICK HIM
> OUT!!!!! This BLACK MAGICIAN.
> A women needs no facts, her emotion is enough as rationale for every evil
> doing and this emotional feeling which is supported and feeded in
so-called
> theosophical meetings is labeled: spiritual! The logic is: Everyone - male
> persons in any case - who is against descend into emotion (the astral
world)
> and who opposes to give up his higher thinking for lower emotion is
against
> Theosophy, is an enemy.
>
> Once I have spoken with an FM Master, 33rd degree. They never admit women
to
> their meetings for the very reason that they do not understand what they
are
> talking about.
>
> Why this in TS circles? And why came HPB as a women?
> And why claim so many TS women to follow HPB, where in fact they pervert
her
> and teach their stupid sheep quite the opposite?
> What would HPB say if they would visit today such a women dominated group?
> The women have nearly all the posts here, and even if they sit a man on a
> post he has only to execute what the hysterical, shouting women majority
> wants, and every man does it for fear of aggessively shouting attacks and
> spread of rumors behind his back. But they have not the capacity to fill
out
> the posts and to do the work which is necessary for this posts.
> Did HPB believe that in the mean of time they grow and learn and one
morning
> they wake up with the mind of a man?
> Will there be evolution? Or are Church and FM right that it makes no sense
> with women?
>
> Have women souls?
>
> Frank, the disharmonic trouble-maker
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