Theos-Talk Archives (July 2005 Message tt00159)

July 3 2005

Dallas offers: (pardon the cut-in) 

May I try to explain why I use:  

"THEOSOPHY teaches...." etc...?"

It is because we owe to the Masters, HPB, W Q Judge, and others of the
original expounders of THEOSOPHY in this era, all if not most of what we
know of the system:

1.	The Universe is incommensurable -- we have at present, no absolute
scales or equipment to measure its depth in time, space or concept. Yet

2	It runs like a well made clock under such (immeasurable) laws as are
evidenced.

3	Under a single LAW [which is itself] IT, the illimitable,
periodically replicates itself in limited time, space and potential. 

4	Starting with the conceptually PERFECT [the ABSOLUTE] it is said to
periodically manifest itself into countless replicas of ITSELF [Called
MONADS ?].


Theosophy posits:

1	UNIVERSAL UNITY (unlimited in time space and awareness.)
considered as 7 x 7 = 49 + 1 -- principles or faculties, each at its own
particular stage of development within every Monad .


2	Coexistent UNITS each with identical potential, but needing
experience to develop voluntary respect and self limitation by means of
VIRTUE. [WISDOM - BUDDHI], to live in harmony with all the rest. [every
atom, human, globe, galaxy, is one of these diversified units and each
struggles over an immensity of time to develop a compassionate view of
universal harmony and purpose.]


3	VIRTUE means to acknowledge a community of indestructible
brother-units (named MONADS). All having the same rights and privileges but
differing in experience. A single unbreakable LAW provides throughout the
Universe immutable fairness, WISDOM AVAILABLE, safeguard of existence and an
ideal tolerance which can be called Universal "sensitivity." This the
single old path to Buddhahood and Mahatmaship.


4	SENSITIVITY is total and instantaneous transmission of events in
detail to all MONADS so they can record and take note of changes -- to us
this appears to be an extension of electro-magnetic phenomena. But as the
whole Universe responds, so does the effect of our choices and acts rebound
ultimately on us. This is called in general KARMA. [The common recording
receptor is called AKASA -- there -- the real history of all units is
impacted eternally, however immense, ancient, large or small they may be.
Every Monad is a "Lipika." KARMA implies the total and simultaneous
adjustments needed to include all decisions made on an independent basis by
any monad anywhere. The future is thus inscribed by each Monad as it lives
and proceeds. ]

This is how their real UNIVERSE is united. It is both sub-physical
and supra-physical. Every "life-atom" is an essential link.


4	MONADS: Each of these eternal units is both bi-and tri-polar.

BIPOLAR is the sense of (1) perfect purity and wisdom placed in
contrast and proximity to desires passions and yens of a selfish and
isolationist nature. It is UNITY vs. DIVERSITY. This proximity is
educational in intent.

TRIPOLAR in the sense that (1) PURITY OF THE ONE UNIT is
contrasted with (2) the infinite diversity of selfish desires that can
infest the many "units," and both of these are perceived by MIND (Soul ?)
which perceives the difference between them.

5	MIND or SOUL, is the immortal Self that reincarnates using many
bodies. These "bodies" are composed of "monads of lesser experience." They
are like a school of pupils assembled around a singe MASTER MONAD . They
are impressed by the quality of the MIND that makes choices, which is to
say, "our self-conscious Self" (we call it Mind) . [The MIND serves thus,
as a link or bond between the PURITY OF THE UNIVERSAL and the follies and
evils of the many UNITS that have not reached the "point of universal mental
perception."]

5	MIND is therefore dual. There is the (1) "Wise-Mind"
(Buddhi-Manas), and there is the (2) "Selfish Desire and 'Foolish' "Mind"
(Kama-Manas).

Our physical Universe is at the bottom of the scale of development, and our
Mind is occupies tithe rules and laws of matter. We begin to sense in the
concept of the astral the underlying sensitive unity that places every
"life-atom" at its appropriate place all the time. [S D I 200 diagram]

This implies a cooperative system where wisdom, law and knowledge reign
fearlessly and imperatively with others without any coercion exerted upon
any other. The duty of the "Eternal Pilgrim," the Mind-Monad is to learn
this system and then adopt it as a rule of self-directed harmless and
brotherly living.

The system works on several planes 

1	Highest is PURITY [SATTVA] SPIRITUAL UNITY OF ALL.

Principles: ATMA , BUDDHI, JIVA (life currants)



2	Middle is ACTION [KARMA or RAJAS] -- DUALITY: a knowledge and
power to choose motives: -- good and evil.

Principles: MANAS (mind) and KAMA (selfish desire & passions)



3	Bottom is INERTIA [TAMAS] -- resistance to change, desire for
continued life in the present body, desire for pleasure, enjoyment and lack
of any responsibility. This is impossible, and death or dispersal of the
components of the organism terminates this. Karma ensures reincarnation.

Principles: ASTRAL BODY and PHYSICAL BODY.


(see S D I 200 diagram; S D II 596 Cosmic Principles
S D I 157-8 Human Principles

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Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Meredith 
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:36 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Different Paths

Hey Jerry. Hope all is well with you during this holiday period.

Subject: Re: Different Paths


> << Jerry, I understand what you are saying, however I would not use the
> phrase, "We all need to....." as you have used it. >>
>
> Bill, as Theosophists, we all need to at least tone down our "Theosophy
> teaches."

It is something for each to consider within the context of one's own 
understanding. From a certain perspective it can be asked, "Why? What 
difference does it make?" The self that refers to what Theosophy teaches is 
not real. The perceived damage done by the not real self to the impermanent

maya of conditional illusion can seem inconsequential from such a 
perspective. Mind you, this is not the perspective I would choose for 
myself, however it appears to be the chosen perspective of others.

I see this in many of Dallas's posts and it is one of the things
> that drove me away from theos-talk. What if someone believes/interprets
> Theosophy as NOT teaching that at all? Then they will either question
> their own interpretations or question the mindset of the poster, and in
> either case will be driven away.

It does not seem comfortable for me to conclude that a person who questions 
their own interpretations or questions the mindset of another will "in 
either case be driven away" from theosophy. Generally I see questioning 
one's interpretations as a very good starting point for any theosophical 
discussion. Are you of the mindset that you were driven away from 
theos-talk or did you choose to leave theos-talk?

CUT