Theos-Talk Archives (June 2005 Message tt00449)

The Scientific Worldview as opposed to the occult worldview

The scientific view of the world is diometrically opposed to the 
occult 
worldview (here the Theosophist). Science is about empirically 
verified 
facts, tested and varified by numerous individuals. The occult 
method is 
spouting words, quoting some ancient mystics whose musings can't be 
verified. They must be accepted on their authority. Science is not 
about 
scientific authorities but about testing and verification by all.

The only reason Galileo and Darwin matter is that they used and have 
been verified by empirical facts. Not because of their words alone, 
but 
because their words were tested to be true. Tested not by beliefs 
but by 
anyone being able to duplicate their experiments and observations.

Copernicus and Galileo only got it paritally right. The Sun is the 
center of the solar system but not of the universe. The universe has 
no 
center. I nor anyone who uses the scientific method would quote them 
as 
if their words alone made any difference. What matters is their 
methods 
and their resluts. Empirically verified by countless indviduals.

You like quoting 19th century opinions. I guess theosophists are 
stuck 
in that century. That's when their infallible leader wrote her 
musings 
and that's where they get their misinformation about Darwin. Darwin 
has 
been confirmed by every scientific finding on the subject of 
evolution 
for the past 150 years. My challenge to the Theosophists and all 
other 
occultists is "where are the empricial verified facts?".

All there is about a human, our body *and* intelligence is 
materialistic. The body was evolved and right along with it was the 
brain. The brain contains all the physical structures that comprise 
our 
intelligence - our reason, thoughts, senses and emotions. Their has 
been 
a ton of verified research. I would recommend Richard Leakey, Daniel 
Denent, or Steven Pinker for starters.

And incidentally, your buddy Leo doesn't know *anything* as in "not 
one 
thing" about string theory. Go read what the science actually says. 
No 
scientists who actually does string theory research is an occultist 
nor 
does there findings have anything to do with what theosophists say.

Cass, I give you my permission to post this on the theosophy list. I 
notice they haven't responded to your questions yet. I have been 
waiting 
to see their answers.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/messages
My opinion is they can't. They won't talk to the scientifically 
minded 
because all they have are opinions without facts.

Wrong, untested, unverified opinions don't validate anyone.

J. Allen