Theos-Talk Archives (June 2005 Message tt00088)

I have been discussing the possibility of a water driven car on 
another group, and found this at the same site. It is very 
interesting.
Next step is to try to source how those Atlanteans flew their 
aircraft. Hid HPB mention ether driven?

Cass

Dry/Ice: Global Warming Revealed

by Drunvalo Melchizedek


What you are about to read is going to change your world forever, 
this I can promise you. I actually apologize that I have to be the 
one who brings this unsettling news, but you must know if you wish 
to survive, for what is coming will either be DRY and heat or ICE 
and freezing. 
Global warming has been in the news for over 40 years, and by this 
time we have become complacent. Our scientists have come to the 
agreement that global warming will eventually cause major changes 
and problems in the world, but in their way of thinking it will be 
50 to 100 years before we will actually have to deal with the 
effects. 

The general idea is that global warming will be slow and the world 
will find time to discover the solutions to the problems. 

New powerful evidence strongly suggests that this scenario is simply 
wrong, and we had better prepare for another more abrupt possibility.

DISCOVERY MAGAZINE 

One of the first hints that something may be different than what we 
are being told (especially here in the US) was published in Discover 
magazine in September 2002 with the cover announcing "Global Warming 
Surprise, A New Ice Age", "Oceanographers have discovered a huge 
river of fresh water in the Atlantic formed by melting polar ice. 
They warn it could soon bury the Gulf Stream, plunging North America 
and Europe into frigid winters." 
That was almost two years ago, and no one listened. Life goes on 
oblivious to the incredible danger approaching. 

ENGLAND & SIR DAVID KING 

Then in January 2004 enter Sir David King. Sir King is the Prime 
Minister of England's chief scientist. Sir King went to Mr. Blair 
and told him of the impending worldwide disaster and that they 
needed to tell the world of what was about to happen. 

Tony Blair told Sir David King to be quiet and not speak. But Sir 
King felt that this was simply too important for him to say nothing, 
so in January of this year he deliberately went around Mr. Blair and 
went straight to the American journal Science where he published his 
information and concern.

Sir King said in this article, "In my view, climate change is the 
most severe problem we are facing today, more serious even than the 
threat of terrorism."

England placed a gag order on Sir David King, and now he is not even 
allowed to discuss this subject publicly without threat of detention.

AMERICA & THE PENTAGON

A month later in February 2004, the Pentagon became involved, which 
has stirred the world to action.

The Pentagon has been studying Global Warming for many years because 
of its possible national security problems associated with the kind 
of changes that could present themselves to the world through Global 
Warming.

A special study was conducted through one of the Pentagon's 
departments, the Office of Net Assessment, which is directed by 
Andrew W. Marshall, 83, who has the responsibility of identifying 
long-term threats to the United States.

Mr. Marshall went to a US based think-tank called Global Business 
Network to compile the possibilities of Global Warming on US 
national security. A study was completed in October of 2003 and 
released to the Pentagon, which was looking at this problem from the 
point of view of what is the worst that could happen. It was 
named "An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for 
United States National Security." The summary went far beyond what 
most Pentagon experts had expected.

Realizing the incredible possibilities of this study, Mr. Marshall 
made a decision to publicly report this and other information to the 
American people. And probably because of President Bush's stance on 
Global Warming, which is beyond negative, he also decided to go 
around the president, and he published his information and concern 
in Fortune magazine on February 9th 2004.

In his article in Fortune, Mr. Marshall explains how the melting 
North and South poles and glaciers from around the world are 
composed of fresh water and within this fact is the basis of the 
impending global weather disaster.

The Gulf Stream or scientifically referred to as North Atlantic 
thermohaline conveyor is a stream of warm water that comes from 
south of the equator and flows over the surface of the ocean toward 
the north where this warm water keeps Northern America and Northern 
and Western Europe from freezing. It also holds most of the world's 
weather patterns in the way we are used to.

Then as this Gulf Stream cools down, it drops to the bottom of the 
ocean and returns as a river in the ocean to the south where it 
warms up again and rises to the surface and then returns to the 
north one more time in a continuous convection current. It is a huge 
three dimensional figure eight.

The motor that keep this warm water flowing is found in the north 
where the Gulf Stream drops to the bottom of the ocean. It is the 
salt density of the ocean that causes this river to drop and pulls 
the warm water up from the south. 

Now that the poles are melting and fresh water is flowing into the 
Atlantic Ocean and the salt density is decreasing, the Gulf Stream 
does not drop quiet as far, which results in a slowing down of this 
Stream. The Gulf Stream has been dramatically slowing down now for 
at least ten years.

As the Gulf Stream slows down, the warmth is not brought to the 
North Atlantic region, and the weather patterns begin to change for 
they are dependent on this warmth to keep a balance.

THE MELTING POLES

The Bush Administration

During the Bush administration when discussions have been held on 
the melting of the North & South Poles, this government and US 
corporate entities alike have stated that the world's scientists are 
all wrong on their conclusions that say there is great danger, and 
have led the American public to believe there is no real problem at 
all.

However, George W. Bush was the focus of attack by Sir David King 
when he wrote his article in Science, for the world's greatest 
scientific minds, at least one thousand seven hundred of them with 
the Union of Concerned Scientists say that Mr. Bush is ill informed 
at the least. 

Since the US government is 25% of the CO2 pollution in the world 
that is creating Global Warming, a discussion of Mr. Bush's Global 
Warming policies is paramount. Perhaps one of the best articles that 
summaries Mr. Bush's position will be found in the ROLLING STONES 
magazine article of May 19, 2004 by Tim Dickinson. What follows in 
italics is a portion of this article.

Given the imminent threat from global warming, even the Bush 
administration might be expected to launch a War on Heat. After all, 
as a candidate in 2000, George W. Bush vowed to "establish mandatory 
reduction targets" for carbon-dioxide emissions, saying he would 
make the issue a top priority.
Once Bush became president, however, reducing carbon emissions was 
the first promise he broke -- and his record has been all downhill 
from there. Only two months after taking office, the administration 
withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol, the global treaty that the United 
States signed in 1997 to set strict limits on greenhouse emissions. 
Instead, Bush instituted a voluntary emissions plan that has been an 
abject failure: So far, only fourteen companies have pledged to curb 
their CO2 output.

The president also folded the interagency group that monitors 
climate change into the Commerce Department -- led by Secretary Don 
Evans, a former oil and gas executive. And he called for additional 
climate research that would delay any meaningful regulation for at 
least another decade. "We do not know how much our climate could or 
will change in the future," Bush declared in a speech in the Rose 
Garden. Such statements spurred an open letter signed by twenty 
Nobel laureates, who blasted the administration for 
having "consistently sought to undermine" public understanding of 
man's role in global warming. (Bush's science adviser refused to be 
interviewed for this article.)

Then the censorship began. In September 2002, the Environmental 
Protection Agency released an air-quality report that - for the 
first time since 1996 - included no mention of global warming. Seven 
months later, the White House made wholesale revisions to the 
climate-change chapter of the EPA's "Report on the Environment," 
playing down human influence, deleting references to the health 
impacts of global warming and inserting climate data funded in part 
by the American Petroleum Institute. The EPA withdrew the altered 
chapter, acknowledging in an internal memo that it "no longer 
accurately represents scientific consensus on climate change."

Even some Republicans have been astounded at Bush's meddling in EPA 
affairs. "What seems constantly evident with George W. Bush is that 
EPA is expected to take its marching orders from the White House on 
regulatory matters," says Russell Train, who headed the agency under 
Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. "During my time, I never had that 
happen. Never." Train, a recipient of a Presidential Medal of 
Freedom from the elder Bush, calls the administration's approach to 
global warming "totally wrong" and "irresponsible."

Bush can rely on key Republicans in Congress to block any efforts to 
curb pollution and stave off disaster. Sen. James Inhofe, chairman 
of the Environment and Public Works Committee, dismisses global 
warming as a "hoax." In a speech last July, Inhofe compared the IPCC 
to the Soviets and extolled the virtues of what he called a "CO2-
enhanced" world. "It is my fervent hope," he concluded, "that 
Congress will reject the prophets of doom who peddle propaganda 
masquerading as science in the name of saving the planet from 
catastrophic disaster."

>From another point of view in the same article we hear: "They (the 
Bush Administration) do not have a credible plan, either 
domestically or internationally, for addressing the problem (Global 
Warming), says Michael Oppenheimer, a climatologist at Princeton 
University. They (the Bush Administration) argue that they don't 
want to address global warming, he says, `because the science is 
shaky'. And that approach is indefensible, because the science isn't 
shaky."

The North Pole Melting

Let's look at the facts. Two summers ago the North Pole completely 
melted for the first time in history that we know of. Both private 
and military ships floated directly over the actual North Pole as it 
was completely water. This area has never been seen to be less then 
ten feet of solid ice.

Greenpeace a few years ago announced that the North Pole's winter to 
summer snow pack had receded by around three hundred miles, but no 
one listened. 

And today, as I am writing this article, we are witnessing the 
Alaska fire that has consumed over one million acres of forest. This 
fire is burning in an area that is always wet with rain or snow 
until now. And this fire, as you will understand in this article is 
directly related to the melting of the poles and the Gulf Stream.

But finally the Pentagon, thanks to Andrew Marshall, has told the 
truth in the Fortune magazine on February 9th. The Pentagon shows a 
satellite photo of the North Pole in 1970 and then in 2003, which 
reveals that, according to the Pentagon, 40% of the North Pole has 
melted in just 33 years. And it is melting faster and faster now. 
The Pentagon has now proven that all these government statements 
that the poles are not melting were simply a lie. And it is a lie 
more damaging than anything that Bush's Iraq war could possibly 
throw at the United States.

The South Pole Melting

In the South Pole a couple of years ago Larsen A ledge broke off, 
which surprised many scientists. At that time we were told by the 
scientific personnel that were studying this event that it was no 
big deal since this ice ledge had only been connected to the South 
Pole for about the last ten thousand years.

And these same scientists also added that Larsen B ledge that was 
behind Larsen A ledge would never melt as it has been there for many 
ice ages. Yet last year, Larsen's B ledge broke off and went to sea. 
These same scientists said that it would take six months to melt 
because of its immense size, but again they were wrong. It melted in 
a mere 35 days, and more significant, it rose the entire world's 
oceans by almost an inch.

Now with Larsen's B ledge gone, an incredibly enormous ice shelf 
called Ross's Shelf is exposed and the only thing holding Ross's 
Shelf from sliding into the ocean was Larsen's B ledge. According to 
my sources, Ross's Shelf is now cracking.

If Ross's Shelf were to slide into the ocean, it has been estimated 
that it would raise the entire world's oceans by sixteen to twenty 
feet. And that, my friends, would change the world, as almost every 
coastal city in the world and many islands along with the county of 
Holland would be underwater. Perhaps it will take an event like this 
to wake up the world to become serious about Global Warming.

THE ANCIENT PAST

1300 AD 

The Pentagon in their study of what is now happening in the North 
Atlantic ocean, has looked into the past to see when this slowing 
down or stoppage of the Gulf Stream has happened before and what 
actually took place at those time in the world's weather patterns.

In actual fact, this North Atlantic ocean slowing or stoppage has 
happen hundreds of times before in the past going back hundred of 
millions years, but in our recent past of the last 10,000 years, it 
has only happened twice.

The most recent time was in the year 1300 AD, and at that time it 
simply slowed down. It never actually stopped. And why it slowed 
down, scientists are at the moment theorizing. They don't really 
know why.

It resulted in abrupt global climatic weather changes that never 
returned to normal for 550 years. This period of time in our history 
has been named the "Little Ice Age" because of the havoc it caused 
to our weather and the dramatic cooling that resulted.

What the Pentagon has realized is that at that time of the "Little 
Ice Age", the East Coast of America became extremely cold, while the 
middle and Western areas of the United States became so dry that the 
Midwest became a dust bowl and the mountain forests burned to the 
ground, just as they are doing right now today, for you see, this 
slowing down of the Gulf Stream has been going on today for about 
ten years. It also affected Europe dramatically as their weather 
changed completely during the "Little Ice Age".

A study of the Anasazi Indians of the 14th century is enlightening. 
In Chaco Canyon in New Mexico the Anasazi completely disappeared, 
and where they went no one is sure. But one of the reasons that has 
emerged from the study of the New Mexico environment for their 
leaving the area is that soon after the turn of the 14th century, 
Chaco Canyon went into a drought where they didn't receive a drop of 
rain for 47 years! 47 years of drought will definitely cause anyone 
to move. No water, no life.

The archeologists who presented this study didn't know why the 
drought happened, but it is clear why it happened with the 
information of the Gulf Stream slowing down just before this period. 
And this is exactly what the Pentagon believes is about to happen 
here in America, Canada and Europe as we speak. 

We may think that this current drought in the US West is going to 
stop soon, but the earth's history with the Gulf Stream suggests 
strongly that it will continue for about another 40 years before it 
begin to regain balance.

8200 Years Ago

However, the Pentagon report believes that the Gulf Stream, from 
everything they know, is not just going to slow down, but rather it 
is going to stop. And the last time this happened was 8200 years ago.

And according to the Pentagon, from their research, this is a much 
more dramatic scenario. When the Gulf Stream stopped 8200 years ago, 
it soon left Northern Europe under a half mile of ice, and New York 
and England quickly endured weather similar to Siberia.

Further it resulted in a true "Ice Age" that lasted about 100 years, 
and so you can see why the Pentagon is so worried. According to 
Andrew Marshall, like Sir David King, he says that this Gulf Stream 
problem is a greater threat to US national security (and other 
countries') than all of the world's combined terrorism. Really, when 
you think about it, terrorism is nothing compared to the stopping of 
the Gulf Stream. It's not even close. 

Realize that without stable weather conditions, the growing of food 
becomes almost impossible, and according to the Pentagon, this could 
become such a huge problem for the world in the near future, that 
wars will begin to form all over the world, not for oil or energy, 
but for food and water.

And with whole countries having to evacuate, if this were to happen, 
such as Finland, Sweden and Denmark, which will be under ice, and 
many other countries for other reasons, this enormous immigration is 
what will cause the most threat to national security, again 
according to the Pentagon report.

This is why Andrew Marshall and Sir David King wanted the world to 
know about what was coming so that the world could begin to prepare 
for the inevitable. 

THE US SENATE

Then in March 2004 the US Senate became aware of what the Pentagon 
was saying and they appropriated 60 million dollars to the study of 
ABRUPT GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGES. This offers hope that soon the US 
Senate will begin to tell the world of these coming climate changes.

THE UNITED NATIONS

In June 2004, ending on June 29th, a meeting was held at the United 
Nations to consider what to do about Global Warming and the Gulf 
Stream. 154 countries participated with the result that the only 
thing they could figure out what to do was to eliminate the use of 
oil and gasoline as soon as possible.

There are those who believe that if we continue to lower the CO2 
levels, that possibly we can slow down the problems, and, of course, 
we must do everything we can. This is important for there are ocean 
currents other that the North Atlantic that are in every ocean, and 
if they all were to stop or slow down, Earth would all most 
certainly enter a true ice age. And history has shown that if that 
were to happen, our civilization would not return to a warm period 
again for 90,000 years.

But really, to change or increase the current of the entire Atlantic 
ocean to bring it back to "normal" is beyond the possibilities of 
the human race and all of it's technologies. It is too late, by the 
estimate of most of the world's scientists, to alter the course of 
what is about to happen. All we can do now is prepare for the shock. 
And preparation is essential, which is the main message of both Sir 
David King and Andrew Marshall.

NASA PREPARES

On July 13th, 2004, NASA launched a satellite, the first of three, 
that's whole purpose is to study Global Warming. Besides the study 
of the ozone, another huge problem associated with Global Warming, 
these satellites will monitor the temperature and salt density of 
the oceans. Perhaps we will at least be able to monitor the rapid 
changes and predict what will happen next.

SOME UNUSUAL WEATHER CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED
SINCE THE GULF STREAM SLOWED DOWN

In March 2004 the world saw a major hurricane hit the coast of 
Brazil. This is the first time in all recorded history that a 
hurricane has struck land in South America.

In May 2004, the United States witnessed 562 tornadoes in a single 
month, breaking all records. A few of these tornadoes were recorded 
in Seattle, Washington. Never has a tornado been seen in Seattle.

Eastern Canada in the winter of 2003/2004 just had one of the 
coldest winters on record.

For several years forest fires have been burning around the world. 
The list would be extensive. The north part of Australia is on fire. 
Alaska, as we have already mentioned, is burning. Unprecedented!
The entire Western United States is under fire, jumping from region 
to region, with the US government announcing that this is the worse 
drought in 500 years. Really, the fires are worldwide.

France and Europe had a heat wave in 2003 that caused 15,000 people 
to die in France and 30,000 through-out Europe simply from the 
intense heat caused by Global Warming and the Gulf Stream.

Argentina this month July 2004, had the greatest storm they have 
ever seen in their history.

Mexico's weather is so strange and wet in some regions that 
mold/fungus is forming on their crops. (And in other regions they 
are having a drought) As weather patterns begin to change more and 
more radically, food growth will become one of our biggest problems.

The coral reefs of the world are dying because of Global Warming, 
and this is threatening most of the islands in the oceans, including 
those in the Pacific. Anyone living on most islands will probably 
have to leave sooner or later because of their fresh water being 
corrupted with salt ocean water. Definitely they will have to leave 
if the oceans rise much higher.

Further, it was reported on NPR this morning, July 16, 2004, that 
fifty percent of the CO2 that has been released in the atmosphere 
from our technological society has ended up in our oceans and this 
in turn is dropping the PH to the acidic. This in turn is actually 
dissolving the coral reefs and killing them along with vast numbers 
of other life forms in the oceans.

These are problems simply off the top of my head. If one were to get 
serious and really research all the strange weather problems of the 
last ten years (the years the Gulf Stream slowed down) one would 
begin to be truly aware of the coming abrupt global climate weather 
changes that we must all adapt to if humanity is to continue on 
Earth.

THE 40-FOOT WALL

In the Pentagon report it suggests that the United States build a 40-
foot wall around the entire country to keep out people who are 
immigrating and trying to escape world weather problems. The 
Pentagon believes that food and water will be the biggest problem, 
and since the US has the money to buy food, they believe we will be 
best able to resist this particular problem longer than most 
countries. People will want to come here just to get food.

This sounds like something out of a weird movie, but in fact the US 
government has already begun the construction of this wall between 
the US and Mexico.

SIDE NOTE: Speaking of movies, The Day After Tomorrow, which was 
recently released is based on this information of the Gulf Stream 
stopping. However, Hollywood exaggerated the results of the storms 
so much that most people simply thought it was fantasy. It is not 
fantasy, it is really happening, but will it happen as this movie 
predicts? And in this movie you saw massive amount of Americans 
fleeing to Mexico to escape the extreme cold weather.

I just spoke with a US military person about two weeks ago who is 
involved in the construction of this 40-foot wall. In the 
discussion, with him about the Gulf Stream, which he was unaware of, 
he said, "Oh, now I understand. You see, the wall is straight up and 
down on the Mexican side, but it has steps and ladders on the US 
side to get over the wall and into Mexico. I never could understand 
why the government was doing this."

THE CHANGING OF THE SHAPE OF THE GULF STREAM

In the Pentagon report they said that they believed that the 
stoppage of the Gulf Stream would probably happen in three to five 
years from October 2003. This was their best guess, and admittedly 
it was only a guess and a theory. 

But what they didn't know, because it was beginning at the actual 
time of their release of their report, was that the Gulf Stream was 
beginning to change shape. The change of shape of the Gulf Stream is 
the beginning of the breakdown and stoppage of this warm water 
current and the end of our civilization as we know it.

I have this information from two sources, both of which do not wish 
to be named right now, but both of them are world famous scientists.

If this is true, then all the effects and timing of the Pentagon 
report have to be shifted closer to the present by three to five 
years.

I don't know if this is true, but in the vein of holding nothing 
back, this info is placed in this article. The actual proof will 
follow if it will be given to me.

FROM MY HEART TO YOURS

As I became aware of this information, I didn't know what to do or 
if I should write this article. But because I believe in and love 
humanity, I finally realized, like Sir David King and Andrew 
Marshall, that I must speak out, for knowledge is power.

And when the time comes for us all to make life decisions, my prayer 
is that we all go inside where God resides and listen to our inner 
Heart. If we trust in ourselves and the presence of Divine Guidance, 
we will all know exactly what to do and where to be.

May God bless us all in what is about to come. 

Dry/Ice: Global Warming Revealed
Updates, Corrections and Clarification