Theos-Talk Archives (May 2005 Message tt00225)

Dallas,

Thank you, I appreciate your help very much
(I was going to send this privately but I got hit with your spam blocker)

-Mark H.

On 5/7/05, W.Dallas TenBroeck <dalval14@earthlink.net> wrote:
> May 7 2005
>
> Dear Mark
>
> War in old times
>
> Here are some references from the SECRET DOCTRINE
>
> ==========================
> WAR(S)
>
> adepts vs sorcerers II 384, 501, 503
> disease &, fr North & West winds I 123
> betw divine & terrestrial self II 268
> first, for man in fourth race II 276
> betw gods & dragon II 384, 503
> betw good & evil II 225
> planetary I 101
> Skanda, Karttikeya, Mars & II 382
> among stars, planets, moon I 202
> struggles or, during evolution I 193
> betw Tiamat & Bel II 503
>
> WAR BETWEEN GODS & GIANTS
>
> Atlas assisted giants in II 493
> described II 222-3
> solar eclipse 945 BC &, (Bentley) II 76
> submersion of Atlantis ended II 222
> Ward, Robert, ["On Heat and Light"] I 484n
>
> WAR(S) IN HEAVEN. See also Revelation
>
> betw adepts of left & right II 501-2
> allegorized in Ramayana II 495
> Assyrian, (G. Smith) II 386
> astronomical phases of I 201-4
> Brahman ecclesiastics disfigured II 502
> Christian version of, transformed II 390
> Codex Nazaraeus on, (Isis Unveiled) I 194-6
> creation due to, (Rosicrucian) II 237
> explained I 194-8, 201-3; II 103-4, 384-90, 492-505
> first, discussed I 419-23
> of gods vs asuras II 390, 498
> human phase of II 501-2
> fr India via Persia, Chaldea I 198
> of Michael & dragon I 202
> origin of Christian I 68, 193; II 497
> pagan in origin I 198, 418
> repeated on every plane II 268
> [Revelation] story of I 194
> secret of, in initiation crypts II 379
>
> betw sons of god & of shadow II 495, 500
> betw spirit & matter II 268, 269n
> struggles for candidate for adeptship II 380
> Tarakamaya or I 418; II 45, 63, 497-8
> Theosophist article on, (Alee Beg) II 244-5
> third, betw adepts & sorcerers I 419 &n
>
> betw Thraetaona & Azhi-daksha II 390
> three, in every cosmogony I 418
> triple meanings in var religions I 202
>
> "War in Heaven, The." See Mitford, G.
>
> War of the Titans (Hesiod) II 63, 500
>
> DELUGE(S). See also Cataclysm, Floods, Noah
>
> Atlantean, an allegory (Massey) II 353
> Atlantean, buried sorcerers II 772
> Atlantean or Noah's II 69n, 142-6, 313-14, 395, 410, 423, 533-4, 751n, 774
> Book of Enoch & II 530-33
> builders of Babel after II 375
> Cain, Ham &, (Rom Church) II 391
> causes of II 144-5, 274, 699
> Chaldean & biblical, not Atlantean II 4
> changed whole Earth II 533-4
> cosmic II 69n
> Deucalion, Pyrrha escape II 270
> divine, or Tityus II 142
> early buddha of fifth race saw II 423
> Faber on Atlantean II 264-5
> fish &, in ancient symbolism I 653
> of fourth round I 444
> geological, ended 3rd race II 313
> historical events II 335
> Ila primeval woman after I 523
> inclination of axis caused II 52
> inversion of poles & II 360
> Jewish, based on Poseidonis II 751n
> Kabirim gods of the II 360
> little, in Central Asia (Bunsen) II 141
> many, compressed into one II 141
> meanings of II 139-40, 144, 145-6
> moon, planets & II 699
> Noachian I 415, 444-5; II 3, 32, 69n, 138, 222, 265,
> 309, 390, 393, 466
> Noah's, not mythical II 774
> our, 850,000 years ago II 141, 144
> overtook fourth race II 350
> periodical, geological II 274, 410, 776 &n
> in Popol-Vuh II 35
> population explosion after II 453
> predicted by zodiac I 649
> pyramids, constellations & II 352
> in Samothrace & Gobi II 4-5
> satya-yuga followed I 67
> several, in fifth race II 353
> sidereal & geological II 314
> skeletons before, tall II 278
> story of, & third race II 139-40 &n
> of Thessaly II 776
> third & fourth, not a curse II 410
> third, was Lemurian II 351
> Timaeus re occasional II 784
> traditions of I 322; II 141, 365, 751 &n, 774
> universal II 530
> universal, watery abyss (Berosus) II 715n
> Vaivasvata's I 369, 523; II 4, 69n, 139, 309, 313
> various I 67-8; II 141-6, 270-1, 313-15, 784-5
>
> FLOOD(S) I 389, 397n; II 150.
> See also Cataclysm, Deluge, Noah
>
> Atlanteans divined coming of II 429, 610
> Atlantis nearly wiped out by II 309, 350
> Babylonian & Mosaic II 222
> of Deukalion II 519
> first, at end of satya-yuga II 146
> first cosmic, was creation II 139
> first, in Aryan memory II 332
> great, allegorical & cosmic II 146, 307-10
> Great, is Old Dragon II 352-3, 786
> great, of third race II 331
> great sidereal, & Vaivasvata II 310, 313
> Jupiter reanimates race after II 270
> M'bul or waters of the I 385
> Mulil caused waters of, to fall II 139n
> of the Nile II 353
> no, 3102 BC I 370
> Noah's I 370, 444n
> Noah's, not Central Asian II 141
> occult science survived great I 341
> second, of fourth race II 146
> Vaivasvata saved race fr II 309-10
> various II 141-8, 222, 353
> Zoroastrian II 356
>
> ATLANTEAN(S) or Fourth Race. See also Atlantis,
> Cainite, Daitya, Giants, Root-Race -- Fourth, Ruta
>
> ANDAMAN ISLANDERS, Australians,
> Tasmanians fr Lemuro- II 195-6, 721
> anthropoids in, explained II 185, 193, 201n, 286, 679, 689
> apex of physical development I 609; II 319
> Aryan Asiatics saw last of II 433
> Aryan wars confused w, wars II 776
> astronomical records kept by II 353
> Asuramaya an II 47, 50, 67-8, 70
> bred w descendants of mindless II 286
> built great images II 331
> Cainites, sons of Ham II 146
> called the Great Dragons II 756
> cities of II 20-1
> civilization of, & Egypt II 426, 429-31
> civilized & savage II 723
> colors of II 178, 227, 249, 433n
> completely human species II 227n, 266, 715n
> continent in Eocene, Miocene II 693
> Cro-Magnon, Guanches, Basques, & II 678n, 740, 791
> Cyclopes belong to II 293
> Deluge not Chaldean or biblical II 4
> destruction of II 147n, 178, 350, 424-8, 494, 533-4, 693, 742n
> devs (Persian) were II 394
> "divined the coming of floods" II 429
> dragon of Revelation &, magic II 356
> Druid priests descendants of II 756
> dwarfs among II 331, 433n
> Earth grosser in mid-, race II 250
> Easter Islands & II 224, 326
> eleven "Buddhas" of II 423n
> endured for millions of years II 263
> ethereal prototypes of II 9
> Europe rising during, peak II 722-3, 740-1
> fell into savagery II 743-4
> forefathers of apes II 201n
> giants II 9, 70, 93-4n, 146, 224, 227n, 232n,
> 236, 265, 350, 433 &n, 753 &n, 756, 760
> gibborim, rakshasas were I 415; II 273-4
> gravitated to South Pole II 274
> hierophants II 530
> highly civilized, intellectual I 189, 191, 192n; II 760
> incarnations of lunar devas II 495
> inhabited surviving islands II 326
> initiates taught Cyclopes I 208n
> invasions of Europe II 743-4
> Irish circular stones were II 343-4
> Isis Unveiled refers to II 496
> islanders perished II 395
> Jupiter belongs to, cycle II 270
> karma "bruised the heel" of II 411
> karma of, & 5th race II 302-3
> King of Tyre (Ezekiel) & II 492-3
> "land of bliss" of II 356
> language developed in I 189; II 198-200
> last of, mixed w Aryans II 444
> Lemurians & I 190; II 319-20, 333-4
> libraries destroyed II 692
> magic black & white I 192n; II 273
> magic language of, priests I 464
> "mash-mak" force known to I 563
> mated w animals II 286-7, 331, 689, 775
> mid-, twenty-nineth kalpa II 249
> Miocene destruction of II 693
> moon, sun & I 397
> mysteries secret after II 124
> Noah was an, (Faber) II 265, 390
> no anthropoids in brighter days of II 679
> no fresh monads since mid II 303
> now viewed as mythical II 761
> one-third of, joined fifth race II 350
> Paleolithic man was II 740 &n, 790
> perished on Ruta & Daitya II 433
> Peruvian colony offshoot of II 745
> pioneers of fourth race not II 323
> pride of II 271, 760
> prototypes of Nimrods, Hamites II 272
> Puranic accounts of II 140, 146-7 &n, 232n
> pyramids, menhirs & II 352
> rakshasas & asuras I 415; II 227n, 232n, 276, 323
> records on prehistoric skins II 692
> religion of II 273-4
> rocking stones built by II 343-4, 347
> Ruta & Greeks & Romans II 436
> Ruta last large island of I 650
> sacrificers to god of matter II 273
> Sanskrit not spoken by I 23
> satyrs among II 775
> Senzar of, fr third race I xliii
> seven, divisions of Earth II 366
> seven sacred islands not II 326
> several humanities in II 433n
> size of II 331, 760
> skeletons may be discovered II 674
> sleep never disturbed by dreams II 761
> sorcerers, giants, & unholy destroyed I 419; II 93-4n, 350, 495, 636
>
> sorcery of I 397; II 272 &n, 286, 371n, 493, 503, 772
> Stone Age man & II 716n, 720-1
> submerged in Miocene II 156, 395 &n, 433
> superhuman powers II 760, 764
> Telchines were Titans II 391
> third eye atrophied II 302, 306
> Titans, fallen angels, & I 417-19
> Titans, Kabiri, & II 265, 390-1
> Uranus(os) first king of II 762, 765
> used magic against Sun II 762
> went fr Sahara to Mexico by land II 424
> "White Island," seven kumaras & II 584
> writing invented by II 439, 442
> zodiacal records II 49
>
> ATLANTES (Gk). See also Atlanteans, Atlantis
>
> Diodorus on II 762, 765
> Herodotus on II 761-2, 771n
> Titans &, (Faber) II 360, 765
> Titans called II 360
>
> ATLANTIC II 405, 408
>
> continent possible (Huxley) II 780-1
> great, flood II 353
> huge Lemurian islands in II 327, 333
> islands & New World flora II 322n, 791-2
> Milky Ocean or I 419
> Atlantic Islands, The. See Benjamin, S. G. W.
> Atlantic Ridge(s) II 792-3
> confirms horseshoe land bridge II 333
> three long II 782
> Atlantides (seven daughters of Atlas)
> cursed the Sun II 407
> historical II 76
> Pleiades or II 768
> symbols of subraces, fourth Race II 493
>
> ATLANTIS. See also Atlanteans, Atlantes, Axis,
> Deluge, Root-Race -- Fourth Race
>
> adept re, before Plato's II 406
> Africa & II 263-4, 314, 740, 761
> alchemy born in II 763n
> ancient writers describe II 767-8
> art of II 426
> astronomical allegory (Massey) II 353
> astronomical evidence of II 407-8
> Asuramaya's birthplace II 50, 67-8
> Atlas & II 761, 763, 768
> Bailly rejected submersion of II 265
> broke into seven pieces (dvipas) II 405
> cause of Deluge of II 349-50, 410, 427, 533-4, 636
> Ceylon remnant of II 314
> continents & kings before II 765
> Cyclopean relics of I 208-9n; II 335-47, 742-60
> destroyed by water II 316, 762
> destruction of II 222-3, 313-14
> divine dynasties of II 370-1, 773
> Eocene height of II 710, 717
> evidence for II 740, 780-2, 790-3
> Ezekiel refers to II 494 &n
> Faber re II 144, 264-5
> Flood nearly wiped out II 309, 406n
> flora evidence for II 322n, 727, 739
> fourth continent I 369; II 8, 334, 606n
> giants of II 275-6, 753, 777n
> Hindu Aryans dwelt in II 406
> histories of, destroyed II 763n
> holy island black w sin II 371-2
> Iranian folklore records II 393-4
> Isis Unveiled on II 384
> islands & continents of II 67, 220-4, 265, 322-3, 350
> Latona-Niobe story & II 771-2 &n
> lemming migrations & II 782
> Lemuria & II 221, 266, 333
> Lyell's "explanation" of II 787-8
> Maligasima, "Maurigosima" II 365
> man on, submerged (Gould) II 218-19
> Mayas coeval w Plato's II 35n
> moral depravity & sinking of II 786
> mountain peaks of II 763
> names for II 323-4n
> Neptune divided, among sons II 406
> Noah & II 222, 265
> northern & southern parts of II 371n
> Northern Hyperborean II 770n
> overlapped Aryan race II 433n
> Pengelly re II 726-7
> Phlegyae & II 144, 265, 365
> Phrygian priests describe II 371
> pithecoid skull & II 727
> Plato's, coeval w Mayas II 34-5n
> Plato's, in Hindu dress II 407-8
> Plato's island/continent II 8, 141, 250n, 314, 323,
> 324n, 352, 370-1, 395, 743n, 761 &n, 767-8
> postdiluvian (Bailly) II 265-6
> Proclus re II 408-9
> pyramids fr Plato's II 429
> race of magicians II 222
> remnants of II 222-3
> "Romakapura" last of II 50, 67-8
> Ruta, Daitya & I 650-1; II 314n, 433, 740
> sacerdotal language of I xliii, 464
> Saka-, Sankha dvipa, & Sankhasura were II 322, 407-8 &n
> sank end of Miocene II 8n, 10, 156, 314n, 395n, 433 &n,
> 693, 710, 740, 778
> science denies existence of II 314, 429
> secrecy re knowledge of II 763-4
> seven islands of II 350, 408-9
> sinking of, remnants II 124, 141, 250, 313-14, 332, 352, 395, 433&n
> Sons of Light, Darkness in II 772-3
> submerged I 439n; II 140-1, 156, 266, 306, 310,
> 395, 606n, 693, 778, 786
> subraces & seven daughters II 768
> survivors of, in Gobi II 371-2
> Sweden as Plato's, (Rudbeck) II 402
> Theophrastus [Theopompus] re II 371, 760
> theory of, factual (Seeman) II 781
> Thevetata king-demon of II 222
> Vaivasvata & II 265, 310
> war betw initiates & sorcerers I 419
> White Island, Atala & II 67, 322, 403, 408 &n
> Wilford's mistakes re II 402-9
> Yudhishthira at sinking of I 369
> Zarathustra fr early II 322-3
>
> Atlantis: The Antediluvian World. See Donnelly, I.
>
> ATLANTO-ARYANS
>
> first settled Egypt II 746
> Greeks, Romans, Egyptians fr II 436
> kings of Egypt II 750-1
> red Adams or II 426
>
> ATLANTO-LEMURIANS. See also Lemuro-Atlanteans
>
> religion of II 272
> sires of later anthropoids II 688n
> took mindless wives II 283
> Veda went forth to II 483
>
> [Courtesy of T S A, Pasadena ]
> ===============================
>
> WHERE THE RISHIS WERE
>
> The Rishis were the sacred Bards, the Saints, the great Adepts
> Known to the Hindus, who gave great spiritual impulses in the
> Past and are said to sometimes reincarnate, and who at one time
> lived on the earth among men.
>
> "The world is made of seas and islands. For continents are only great lands
> water-encircled. Men must ever live upon sea or land, then, unless they
> abide in air, and if they live in the air, they are not men as we know
> them."
>
> Thus I thought as the great ship steamed slowly into the port of a small
> island, and before the anchor fell the whole scene seemed to change and the
> dazzling light of the past blotted out the dark pictures of modern
> civilization. Instead of an English ship I was standing on an ancient
> vehicle propelled by force unknown today, until the loud noises of
> disembarkation roused me once again.
>
> But landed now, I was standing on the hill overlooking the town and bay.
> The strange light and the curious vehicle again obtained mastery over sense
> and eye, while the whole majesty of forgotten years rolled in from the
> Ocean. Vainly did modern education struggle and soar: I let the curtain
> drop upon the miserable present.
>
> Now softly sings the water as it rolls against the shore, with the sun but
> one hour old shining upon its surface. But, far off, what is that spot
> coming nearer from the West, followed by another and another until over the
> horizon rise hundreds, and now some are so near that they are plainly seen?
> The same strange vehicles as that I saw at first. Like birds they fly
> through the air. They come slowly now, and some have been brought still on
> the land. They light on the earth with a softness that seems nearly human,
> with a skill that is marvelous, without any shock or rebound. From them
> alight men of noble mien who address me as friends, and one more noble than
> the others seems to say, "Wouldst thou know of all this? Then come," as he
> turns again to his vehicle that stands there like a bird in wait to be off.
>
> "Yes, I will go;" and I felt that the past and the present were but one, and
> knew what I should see, yet could not remember it but with a vagueness that
> blotted out all the details.
>
> We entered the swift intelligently-moving vehicle, and then it rose up on
> the air's wide-spreading arms and flew again fast to the West, where the
> water was still softly singing to the beams of the sun. The horizon slowly
> rose and the Island behind us was hidden by the sea from our sight. And
> still as onward we flew to the Occident, many more birds made by manlike
> that we were in flew by us as if in haste for the soft-singing waters
> lapping the shore of that peak of the sea mountain we had left in the
> Orient. Flying too high at first we heard no sound from the sea, but soon
> a damp vapor that blew in my face from the salt deep showed that we were
> descending, and then spoke my friend.
>
> "Look below and around and before you!"
>
> Down there were the roar and rush of mad billows that reached toward the
> sky, vast hollows that sucked in a world. Black clouds shut out the great
> sun, and I saw that the crust of the earth was drawn in to her own
> subterranean depths. Turning now to the master, I saw that he heard my
> unuttered question. He said,
>
> "A cycle has ended. The great bars that kept back the sea have been broken
> down by their weight. From these we have come and are coming."
>
> Then faster sailed our bird, and I saw that a great Island was perishing.
> What was left of the shore still crumbled, still entered the mouth of the
> sea. And there were cars of the air just the same as that I was in, only
> dark and unshining, vainly trying to rise with their captains; rising
> slowly, then falling, and then swallowed up.
>
> But here we have rushed further in where the water has not overflowed, and
> now we see that few are the bright cars of air that are waiting about while
> their captains are entering and spoiling the mighty cars of the men whose
> clothing is red and whose bodies, so huge and amazing, are sleeping as if
> from the fumes of a drug.
>
> As these great red men are slumbering, the light-stepping captains with
> sun-colored cloaks are finishing the work of destruction. And now, swiftly
> though we came, the waters have rushed on behind us, the salt breath of the
> all-devouring deep sweeps over us. The sun-colored captains enter their
> light air-cars and rise with a sweep that soon leaves the sleepers, now
> waking, behind them. The huge red-coated giants hear the roar of the
> waters and feel the cold waves roll about them. They enter their cars, but
> only to find all their efforts are wasted. Soon the crumbling earth no
> longer supports them, and all by an inrushing wave are engulfed, drawn into
> the mouth of the sea, and the treacherous ocean with roars as of pleasurein
> conquest has claimed the last race of that Island.
>
> But one has escaped of all the red giants, and slowly but surely his car
> sailed up, up, as if to elude the sun-colored men who were spoilers.
>
> Then, loud, clear, and thrilling swelled out a note of marvelous power from
> my captain, and back came a hundred of those brilliant fast cars that were
> speeding off eastward. Now they pursue the heavy, vast, slow-moving car of
> the giant, surround it, and seem to avoid its attacks. Then again swells
> that note from my master as our car hung still on its wings. It was a
> signal, obeyed in an instant.
>
> One brilliant, small sharp-pointed car is directed full at the red giant's
> vehicle. Propelled by a force that exceeds the swift bullet, it pierces the
> other, itself, too, is broken and falls on the waves with its victim.
> Trembling I gazed down below, but my captain said kindly,
>
> "He is safe, for he entered another bright car at the signal. All those
> red-coated men are now gone, and that last was the worse and the greatest."
>
> Back eastward once more through the salt spray and the mist until soon the
> bright light shone again and the Island rose over the sea with the
> soft-singing water murmuring back to the sun. We alighted, and then, as I
> turned, the whole fleet of swift sailing cars disappeared, and out in the
> sky flashed a bright streak of sun-colored light that formed into letters
> which read:
>
> "This is where the Rishis were before the chalk cliffs of Albion rose outof
> the wave. They were but are not."
>
> And loud, clear and thrilling rose that note I had heard in the car of swift
> pinions. It thrilled me with sadness, for past was the glory and naught for
> the future was left but a destiny.
>
> Bryan Kinnavan
> (Wm. Q. Judge)
>
> THE PATH, January 1891.
>
> ============================
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Dallas
>
> ===========================
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Mark Hamilton Jr.
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:24 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Are we recreating the Atlantean apocalypse?
>
> Does anyone have any more readings on the wars between Adepts and
> sorcerers? Or left/right hand hierarchies. Anything of that nature.
>
> I am a fan of H.P.B. and Judge and would like to read anything
> remotely relating this matter by them.
>
> I'm not that picky though, I'll get what I can take.
>
> Thank you,
>
> -Mark H.
>
>
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