Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01880)

Apl 28 2005

Dear Friend:  

Help me to understand:  

Can you tell me where HPB says this?  

Quote:  

"The Will principle in the 4th round is what some of us are developing. It
is one of the 49 fires."

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I have SEEN in the SECRET DOCTRINE 

Will(s)

absolute, & law II 164 
aggregate of cosmic, & atoms I 632-3 
animals have II 671n 
atoms have memory, sensation & II 672 
Deity first manifests as I 343 
faith without, is barren II 59n 
Fohat & I 111 
human forms born of I 211 
incarnating host preferred free II 421 
Itchasakti [ichchhasakti] as, -power I 292-3; II 173 
it is the, of Deity that acts II 528 
procreation by I 192 
rebellious angels & free-WILL I 193-4 
result of, on our actions I 639 
Sons of, & Yoga II 163 

FORTY-NINE FIRES, Stages

Commentary on I 290-1 
every one of, a distinct function I 520-1 
explained I 520-1; II 57 &n, 564 
seven &, in India I 411; II 611 
seven &, worshiped II 362

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"Just as in old alchemical works the real meaning of the substances and
elements meant are concealed under the most ridiculous metaphors, so are the
physical, psychic, and spiritual natures of the Elements (say of fire)
concealed in the Vedas, and especially in the Puranas, under allegories
comprehensible only to the Initiates.

Had they no meaning, then indeed all those long legends and allegories about
the sacredness of the three types of fire, and the forty-nine original
fires- personified by the Sons of Daksha's daughters and the Rishis, their
husbands, "who with the first son of Brahma and his three descendants
constitute the forty-nine fires"-would be idiotic verbiage and no more. But
it is not so. 

Every fire has a distinct function and meaning in the worlds of the physical
and the spiritual. It has, moreover, in its essential nature a corresponding
relation to one of the human psychic faculties, besides its well determined
chemical and physical potencies when coming in contact with the
terrestrially differentiated matter. 

Science has no speculations to offer upon fire per se; Occultism and ancient
religious science have. This is shown even in the meagre and purposely
veiled phraseology of the Puranas, where (as in the Vayu Purana) many of the
qualities of the personified fires are explained. 

Thus, Pavaka is electric, or Vaidyuta, fire; Pavamana, the fire produced by
friction, (or Nirmathya): and Suchi is solar (or Saura) fire *- all these
three being the sons of Abhimanin, the Agni (fire), eldest son of Brahma and
of Swaha. Pavaka, moreover, is made parent to Kavyavahana, the fire of the
Pitris: Suchi to Havyavahana-the fire of the gods; and Pavamana, to
Saharaksha, the fire of the 

Asuras. Now all this shows that the writers of the Puranas were perfectly
conversant with the "Forces" of Science and their correlations; moreover,
with the various qualities of the latter in their bearing upon those psychic
and physical phenomena which receive no credit and are unknown to physical
science now. 
S D I 520-21

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Thanks,

Dal
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cass Silva
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:00 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: WILL 49 FIRES [ DWELLER ]


The Will principle in the 4th round is what some of us are developing. It
is one of the 49 fires.


thalprin <thalprin@yahoo.com> wrote: