Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01838)

Friend Dal
It´s always nice to hear from you.
I do agree wuth what you said and can still, humbly, add:
If we take a look at the Theosophical Movement is if it were a religion/religious movement we can see just how things work in a religion, the first prophets, as you described.
It is a relatively recent fact and the tracking down their influence and their modus-operandi easy to observe.
The disciples are thus responsable for the correct or incorrect spreading of the original truths and they become " less true" as the times passes by. 
It happens because the same grade of inspirational is not equal in the discipleship and they´ll fatally distort in some level.
It happened as we all know with Budhism and other mainstreams.
Thus I can now understand the responsability that a Master has got.
IMO the masters that inspired the TM were splendidally intelligent when they chose only one main chela for their purpose and I imagine how hurt although compassionate they could have been when they observed the laster moves from their "predecessors" self- claimed initiates.
So I ´m also very cautious about people who claim to contact masters.
One " must watch and pray " because contacting a master is something too deep to be mixed up with puerile purposes.
Priesthood in my opinion, collating from your post, is an organized way tokeep people informed in only one direction, infiltering dogmatic and control commands in people.
This, as you also stated, keeps people in spiritual ignorance.


Krishtar
----- Original Message ----- 
From: W.Dallas TenBroeck 
To: AA-BNStudy 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: answers -- Religions and Priesthoods everywhere



Apl 27 2005

RE: answers -- Religions and Priesthoods everywhere

Dear K:

In my opinion all priesthoods everywhere make it a business to keep people
ignorant of the truth of all real spiritual things, hence they retain their
power based on their claims to be able to manipulate both "God" and "His
laws" in favour of those who pay them enough or who give them power.

They promote this ignorance in order to instill fear. They (the truly
learned among them) know the truth, and every thinking human can know it
too. But if that were encouraged, the could no loner be in business. 

We are all in the process, wherever we are, trying to learn how to think
things through logically ad reasonably.

Check the history of every exoteric religion you please. I guarantee you
will find that at the root, there was a great Teacher, a Prophet, who came
to assist a tribe or a nation. His teachings were / are identical with
those of every other Teacher.

The existing priesthood (and political governments) made it very difficult
for him or her.  

A few who listened, caught on to some aspects of what was being said, and
began thinking independently.

Thus a reform movement always started, and was either carried forward or
not. ]

The "carrying forward" has always been in the hands of the pupils and
disciples. They did this on a volunteer basis. 

In any case if it was successful you can see, as in the case of the
THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, an attempt to divert it back to a kind of priesthood
authority was contrived, and it continues. No logic supports it, only loud
claims and a refusal to hold any reasonable discussions. 

Check me if I am wrong.

Best wishes, 


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