Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01799)

Dang, Leon, why all the words?!

When all you really wanted to say that you don't care
about my contact with Dionne...

Fine, she and I will continue to have a good time...

Now go back to your books and speculations...

I'll stick to my experience...

Niki


--- leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:

> 
> To Niki and others on this thread.
> 
> Whether or not I am interested in what Dionne taught
> you is irrelevant. 
> Also, what you implied by "scripture" has nothing to
> do with what's true or not.
> 
> I was referring to reading responses to previous
> correspondence that does not 
> quote what the writer is referring to, answering
> letters out of context, 
> changing subject lines in midstream, or just plain
> nonsense comments, unfounded 
> assertions, or personal remarks directed to
> particular individuals. Unless one 
> quotes the entire dialogue in any thread, this is
> not the way an open and 
> unmoderated topical discussion forum should work. 
> 
> But since you asked -- I am not particularly
> interested in anybody's personal 
> experiences based on any sort of contact with the
> dead (other than to refute 
> it as being of no value at all in increasing anyones
> knowledge of theosophy) 
> ... Since, my own knowledge and experience of
> occultism and mental or psychic 
> phenomena coupled with metaphysics and science goes
> deep enough to know that 
> much of such stuff referring to visions of the
> afterlife and seeing and talking 
> to the dead, are self delusional, strictly personal
> wishful thinking, or 
> chemically induced hallucinations (either through
> brain or gland dysfunction's or 
> ingestion of certain drugs) -- that doesn't help
> anyone else in understanding 
> the true nature of reality or attaining their own
> self realization or 
> enlightenment -- which depends solely on their own
> particular karma, and has nothing to 
> do with anyone else's karma or their imaginations or
> fantasies... That should 
> be kept strictly to themselves. 
> 
> But you can keep on writing all you want about it,
> and if I find it 
> theosophically interesting, I'll read some more. If
> not, I will ignore it. 
> 
> (The above was written more than a week ago.) 
> 
> Now that I've read some more about your imaginary
> experiences and what was 
> taught to you (which may or may not be true,
> wherever it came from) I can put it 
> in the same category of other spiritualists'
> delusions (as HPB did) -- that, 
> along with private chats and meaningless one line
> comments, has cluttered my 
> mailbox with almost 1000 letters having little of
> value in most of them (as I 
> presume from all the random reading of the past
> month)... And proceed to ignore 
> your letters along with all the other babblers using
> this theosophical 
> discussion forum as a personal, ego washing chat
> room. (Unless they are directed to, 
> or sent by me. :-) 
> 
> While I may disagree with your ideas and lack
> interest in your personal chats 
> with or about either living or dead lovers or your
> personal sexual 
> preferences or other physical needs, desires, or
> whatever -- no personal disparagement 
> is intended. :-)
> 
> (For you and others reading this) 
> So, since I can never catch up with my e-mail, I
> have decided to trash all 
> mail received from this forum, without opening...
> Except, possibly, letters from 
> a few theosophists that I am interested in, those
> with specific questions 
> directed to me in the subject line, or thread lines
> I have started or replied to. 
> 
> 
> From now on, if anyone want's to talk with me about
> theosophical metaphysics, 
> yoga, science, philosophy, or any other topic of
> common interest, please 
> write me directly. (I'll decide whether or not such
> correspondences are worth 
> public posting.) However, if you want me to read
> your letter to this forum, please 
> put my name on the subject line.
> 
> In the meantime -- since I am moving over to other
> monitored forums where I 
> can reasonably discuss theosophy and scientific
> metaphysics in some depth -- 
> you may hear from me occasionally if I start a
> thread here or someone asks me a 
> question. </:-)>
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Leon Maurer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 04/18/05 4:04:56 AM,
> nikidurand@yahoo.com writes:
> 
> >Hi Leon-
> >
> >So does that mean my experience with my recently
> >deceased mate, Dionne, since it isn't scripture, is
> >"off-topic"?
> >
> >Or would you be interested in what she's taught me
> >since she died?
> >
> >Curiously, 
> >
> >Niki
> >
> >
> >--- leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In a message dated 04/17/05 1:57:06 PM,
> >> bartl@sprynet.com writes:
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >Mark Hamilton Jr. wrote:
> >> >> Theosophy teaches that there are actually not
> >> one, but seven parts of
> >> >> man and some of them separate at death.
> >> >
> >> > Any statement which starts out with
> "Theosophy
> >> teaches" is going to 
> >> >turn off a good portion of your audience. In
> >> addition, you are ignoring
> >> >the first principle of THE SECRET DOCTRINE.
> >> >
> >> > Bart
> >> 
> >> Would you mind explaining that? What's the
> >> relevance of your first remark? 
> >> What is the principle Mark is ignoring? How? 
> >> 
> >> Since this is an e-mail forum supposedly talking
> >> about theosophical subjects, 
> >> and not a chat room where anything goes, I get
> >> "turned off" by such out of 
> >> context and out of continuity remarks that have
> no
> >> relevance to the thread of 
> >> the subject line. 
> >> LM 
> >
> 
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