Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01758)

Terrie and Mark
Thanks Terrie for the link on Copts.

Mark I am still analysing all thet you are saying to form a whole idea thatI can express later.

Terrie, your comments on Mark´s situation at one side (seem to ) lack a little compassion, they´re very cutting,direct but I also see that some truths also cutting and cruel...aren´t they?
The explanations offered about the after-death states by the mahatmas and also by HPB herself are more difficult to accept, digest, than those given by many spiritualists such as Allan Kardec and Leadbeater, where it is very, as I once said, very romantic.
My observation on the various situations where people claim to see things like masters and deceased ones, are a bit or a lot of psychic problems, notpurely psychic capabilities.
It´s sometimes easier to react roughly when a truth or plausible fact is shown at a objective POV. 
Most of the people who start telling about their " paranormal" experiencesexpect congruity, not shock, and this way is very difficult to keep a conversation without shocking of opinions.
One must be very honest and strong to admitt that some experiences are notmystical or occult, but what happens is the high attachment we have to thefenomenas that occur with us.
We all like to dettach ourselves from the normality, from the average people´s experiences and we seize to these experiences as if they were something we really possess, even taking our illusions as realities.
An illusion becomes more and more real to as as much as the more we get attached to it.
Just my view.

Krishtar
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: thalprin 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:43 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Mental Health issues - ancient meets modern




--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "thalprin" <thalprin@y...> wrote:
> 
> > > Good idea, let's encourage folks to get lost in their heads 



Especially knowing Mark's prone to depression/anxiety and panic 
attacks - a friend would try and offer him healthy advice. 



and 
> > lose 
> > > touch with reality - after all, 'in the name of religion' we 
> > always 
> > > need more religious maniacs.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Oh, yeah, he could live in poverty and cut off his ear just 
like 
> > Van 
> > > Gough - what a great suggestion.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Iain" <ibse03888@b...> 
wrote:
> > > > The history of prophets, seers &etc when the state of their 
> > > prophesies are 
> > > > analysed there does seem to be a link ,Joan of Arc Heard 
> Voices 
> > > The bible is 
> > > > full of similar activities.In many cultures these people are 
> > > revered 
> > > > Epilepsy seems to be a common form in which "visions and 
> > soothes" 
> > > have 
> > > > manifested ,Mindful that Epilepsy is not a mental illness 
but 
> a 
> > > build up of 
> > > > electrical impulses that build up in the brain that has to 
be 
> > > discharged 
> > > > (Major Episode) Many civilizations and societies throughout 
> all 
> > > the 
> > > > continents of the world have treated those with a respect as 
> > > priest, or 
> > > > priest/king, 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ah, such sillyness.... shall we bow now - oh, please, he don't 
> > > act/sound anything like a spiritually advanced person AND that 
> has 
> > > nothing to do with his imaginings. Obviously, you can't tell 
> the 
> > > diff a/o don't want to, which, yes, of course, is your 
> choice.    
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Speaking in tongues is common ,the visionary dream also common 
> > > > and the ability to interperate the phenomenon was/is 
> considered 
> > > highly in 
> > > > many religions. The boundary between sane/insanity is very 
> thin 
> > > indeed. 
> > > > Mental illness or stability of the mind, think of the state 
of 
> > > some 
> > > > writers/artists and what they have produced e.g Van Gogh,and 
> > many 
> > > others.To 
> > > > dismiss someone just because they have a mental problem ,is 
> > wrong 
> > > and 
> > > > condesending.It is a part of Theosophy whether some like it 
or 
> > not.
> > 
> > 
> > NOT!!!! But you're welcome to pretend. After all it's probably 
> > really hard to know what a pineapple is ifn you've never 
actually 
> > see one in REAL LIFE.
> 
> 
> ps: A 100 years may seem like a long time BUT in the grander 
context 
> it's barely a blind of an eye AND nope, it's doubtful such whim 
> w/should ever be integrated, glamours aside, mediumship is not 
> Theosophy -  
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > > ,keep on writing Mark
> > > > cheers Iain





   
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