Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01683)

Don't you think, maybe, that they are part of the weaning process? (having to put up with minor attacks, to strengthen us for the major attacks)

You can build yourself, according to my ex teacher, an etheric/astral firewall, which bounces the negativity back to the owner, but I tend to try to deal with it as it happens, because I dont want a backlog of negativity hitting me at the one time. Though, she did say, if there is anything within you that the negativity is attracted to, this could also be, a lesson, or cleansing process. If this is the case, and we realise the same flaw, we can do something about changing it. As Dr Phil says, you cannot change something you dont acknowledge. So in that way, we , will reach the point, when we can thank these negative forces for assisting in our personal development. 

Just more of my own conclusions based on word of mouth knowledge from another,(my ex teacher) whom I trust implicitly. 

Cass

"Mark Hamilton Jr." <waking.adept@gmail.com> wrote:

Will is important for resisting external forces, but much like martial
arts, sometimes your opponent can use your own force against you. They
will sometimes mislead or trick you without having to use brute force.

My master is trying to ween me off of his own protection, by slowly
making me endure more and more of the attacks. I have not been
affected by depression in a long time, but now have to put up with
this. I find myself frequently having to dispel the energies in my
environment because they become very unclean. When you are around
harmful resonant energy for a while you often become weak and tired.


-Mark H.

On 4/25/05, Cass Silva wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> And you are quite right, the original posting brought up this subject in a theosophical context. Yes, it does take a lot of willpower to resist depression, my method is simple, I entertain it for a fixed period of time, and then say enough is enough. The more you do it the easier it becomes. In theosophical terms, I believe, that the elemental underlying this condition, gets weaker and weaker, when it is not reinforced. But that is just a housewife's reality.
> 
> I can't answer your question regarding the left hand side, as I am not psychically awake yet, so have no experiential experience with it. But I imagine that if they do employ this method, it is a method of keeping us in a state of insomnia, and when we are asleep, we are putty in their hands.
> 
> My housewife teacher, told me, that we need to develop will, not willpower in terms of giving up cigarettes, etc, perhaps, resisting internal/external forces is what she meant. I have read and have experienced an entity in my former house, and employed 'will' to force it out. My house was then cleansed, in kindness, and the problem did not occur again. I later found out that the previous owner, had died in a racing car accident, his wife, had scattered his ashes in the rose bush in the front garden, and she had, not long after, took a man into her/his house. I often wonder if she sold the house, because she felt his presence, but the answer to that I will never know.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Cass
> 
> "Mark Hamilton Jr." wrote:
> 
> Sorry for this, sent it too quickly.
> 
> I was wondering if any other occultists or Theosophical society
> members struggled with similar problems. It takes a lot of
> self-control to fight off even the smallest spurts of depression.
> 
> I'm wondering if there could be an alternate spiritual explanation for
> it, like black magicians/sorcerers attacking the neophytes. Perhaps
> even to test someone to see if they have the willpower required to
> practice such arts.
> 
> -Mark H.
> 
> On 4/25/05, Mark Hamilton Jr. wrote:
> > Agreed--depression tends to change your perception.
> >
> > -Mark H.
> >
> > On 4/25/05, Cass Silva wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mark
> > > I agree that what you say is the medical approach to these conditions, but theosophy teaches us that these are a reflection in the physical of something that is occuring on higher dimensions.
> > > I posted the article as I found it interesting and especially promising that other people in the world have started to look inside for explanations.
> > > It wasnt sent as a coded message.
> > > I have experienced all if not many of the below, however, my depressive states, are short lived and I am able to bounce back, as I read many years ago that Blavatsky (this use of her name seems so impersonal to me, but for others, I do it) said fight off depression at all costs.
> > > Regards
> > > Cass
> > >
> > > "Mark Hamilton Jr." wrote:
> > >
> > > The article has a few things I don't particularly agree with. I don't
> > > think it's a spiritual thing, for example. If you look up PNE
> > > (Polyneuronal ectopy), you'll find that when someone has a combination
> > > of Anxiety, depression, compulsions, and depersonalization disorders,
> > > it's usually because of the hypersensitivity of the neurons in the
> > > brain, and they diffuse ions more readily. (Making messages send
> > > faster, but ultimately triggering parts of the brain like the
> > > fight-or-flight response in the brain that's associated with panic
> > > attacks).
> > >
> > > I think the hypersensitivity enables people to easily process and
> > > perceive information that's normally extremely difficult. I also think
> > > practicing occultism strengthens/reinforces the condition, while
> > > conversly the condition helps one practice occultism.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if any TS members or masters had any kind of nervous
> > > conditions? I'd like to look more into this.
> > >
> > > -Mark H.
> > >
> > > On 4/25/05, Mark Hamilton Jr. wrote:
> > > > Strangely, me and my disciple both were diagnosed with clinical
> > > > anxiety (PAD/GAD) & depression, which at one point was unbearable for
> > > > both of us.
> > > >
> > > > I also have dissociative attacks, which causes the "bursts of energy"
> > > > kind of feeling that makes you jump.
> > > >
> > > > She also remembers me complaining about muscle aches in the morning
> > > > when I woke up after having dreams about the mahatma. I suggested
> > > > jokingly, "maybe I'm working out in my sleep."
> > > >
> > > > -Mark H.
> > > >
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