Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01400)

Dear Peter
I can't tell you how much confirmation your posting gave me. For quite a while now, I have had a gut feeling that the worlds problems were partly astral. In this regard I have been, with Dallas postings, trying to understand that plane, and also the negativity that it has on the lower levels. But my search has been met with brickbats or the possibility of joining the other side! How can we know the true enemy of mankind if we dont know and understand the realms it operates in. If I am to meet up with the darkside, I, at least, want to be able to recognise it as such.
It is such a comfort to know that forces, beyond our understanding, are keeping a watchful eye over us.
Again, many thanks, you came along at precisely the right time, for me.
Regards
Cass

Peter Daley <phdaley@bigpond.com> wrote:

Greetings Daniel, M.Suflight and All,

It all depends on the Bailey books you read.
I prefer the Treatise onCosmic Fire. There is nothing suggesting a bias to 
any
religion in that work, and I regard it as a textbook of Metaphysics.
I would be interested to know if the critics of A.Bailey's work have ever 
read
"The Treatise on Cosmic Fire", it is not an easy book to read.
It pays to be selective. Because she was a very devout Christian, it should 
not
be surprising to find a bias in some of her works, just as HPB had a strong
preference for the Hindu traditions, and never had a good word for the
Catholic Church, and showed complete intolerance of Jesuits.

There is more advanced theosophical teaching by George King, but his 
practical
work as a specialist in the Occult and Metaphysical Operations, was more 
concerned
with Mother Earth and our survival into a New Age.

It can be seen that there have been three phases in the development of 
Theosophy.

It might be of interest to theosophists generally, to consider why the 
Theosophical
Organisation was not considered suitable for the New Age transmissions, and 
for
Metaphysical Operations.

You checked their website (www.aetherius.org).
I would recommend some of the books,
"ContactWith The Gods From Space" for starters, only a small one of 153 
pages .
But the essence is in "The Twelve Blessings" (63 pages ) for purely 
spiritual,
but larger 200in "The Nine Freedoms" for philosophy, outlining Evolution 
into Freedo
beyond anything which has ever been disclosed before. It has a devestating 
effect
on religious philosophy, and offers a challenge to all theosophists.
So far, I have not heard of any Theosophists able to take the teaching
of The Aetherius Society, and seem quite content to argue the merits of HPB 
and AB.

My website is "Metaphysics and The New Age"(www.users.bigond.com/phdaley)
You will find that the concerns of The Aetherius Society are somewhat 
different, and
show a distinct preference for practical spiritual work.
Truth is there in agreement with Theosophy, but more of it.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M. Sufilight" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World The Fountain Source of Modern Theosophy


>
> Hallo Peter Daley and all,
>
> My views are:
>
> I have been pro-Bailey in Denmark.
> The below show some of the reasons why I changed my views on the Bailey
> teachings.
>
> Try for instance to read the following - and if
> you are interested let me or others know your views on it:
>
> 1.
> "
> a) The Bailey books are not a balanced multicultural presentation on
> Theosophy.
> b) The Bailey books leans heavily towards a Chrisitan outlook unto the
> world. The consequences of this will show up in the present information
> society.
> c) The Middle East is hardly mentioned in the books, but the Christian
> religion gets a whole lot of coverage.
> d) The books were NOT intended for a Middle Eastern audience. Today
> communication is rapid - due to the Internet. The audience is different
> today.
> e) Bailey groups are connected with work at The United Nations,
> Headquarters.
> f) Because of that they are politically involved, and that on an
> international level.
> h) This is today one of the problems the books of Bailey creates in TODAYS
> international information society, where there are clearly visible 
> political
> tensions between the Western politicians and The Middle Eastern ones."
>
> http://theosophy.com/theos-talk/200301/tt00435.html
>
>
> 2.
> And also
> http://theos-talk.com/archives/200301/tt00264.html
>
> An exceprt from that link is the following:
> "Esoteric Psychology I; p. 167:
>
> "...note chat this movement was started by a secret society which has 
> [167]
> existed in the world since the last period of seventh ray dominance in
> Atlantean times.
> Every great religion which arises is under the influence of one or other 
> of
> the rays, but it does not necessarily follow that each successive ray 
> should
> have a great far-reaching religion as its outcome. We have heard that
> Brahmanism is the last great religion which arose under first ray 
> influence;
> we do not know what may have been the religion which was the outcome of 
> the
> last second ray period; but the Chaldean, the Egyptian and the Zoroastrian
> religions may be taken as representing the third, the fourth, and the 
> fifth
> rays respectively. Christianity and probably Buddhism were the result of
> sixth ray influence. Mohammedanism, which numbers so large a following, is
> also under sixth ray influence, but it is not a great root religion, being 
> a
> hybrid offshoot of Christianity with the tinge of Judaism."
> http://beaskund.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/psychology1/psyc1050.html
> "
>
> And George King?
> I find the Aetherius Society website to be very unclear about what they 
> are
> actually teaching.
> Maybe you would care to tell me or others about the enhancement, that
> teaching
> contains?
>
>
>
>
> from
> M. Sufilight with pece and love...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Daley" 

> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World The Fountain Source of Modern Theosophy
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>> What about Alice Bailey and George King? This is the modern version.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Daniel H. Caldwell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:09 AM
>> Subject: Theos-World The Fountain Source of Modern Theosophy
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