Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt01142)

Dear Perry-

No, I don't feel as if I am being taken
seriously...maybe it's because I'm a woman...

And I would NEVER, I repeat NEVER say that I have the
"only" perspective on ANY subject. That's for other
people, not me. If a person can't tell when they have
a real, breathing, vulnerable and authentic human
being before them...well, what good are all the books
in the world? Life is messy, gloriously so! Have you
ever witnessed a birth? It can't be compartmentalized,
it withers and dies. That's what prisons are all
about...

I simply mean that I know what I know, about my
experience and my life. I am responsible for myself,
my cat, and that's it.

That I even have to write a post like the one you just
responded to is sad to me...

I expected A LOT more open dialogue, not have dogma
shoved down my throat...

As for posting further...don't know. I need honesty
and real contact, I need HEART, not mind contact...

In Anguish,

Niki


--- Perry Coles <perrycoles@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Dear Niki,
> I am sorry to here you feel your perspectives and
> experiences are not 
> taken seriously.
> You may well have 'contact with your dead partner'
> who are any of us 
> to say you haven't.
> 
> Many of us here have had experiences of a psychic
> and perhaps even of 
> a spiritual nature from time to time.
> 
> While I find reading and sharing the theosophical
> writings and 
> perspectives of great benefit, that doesn't
> therefore mean I don't 
> examine and compare different philosophies and
> perspectives and 
> continually challenge the theosophical perspectives.
> 
> HPB and the Mahatmas writings have imo tried to
> promote a questioning 
> and expansive mindset that is able to look at things
> many and varied 
> perspectives rather than a belief based mindset.
> 
> Many times we are either playing out an old program
> or perhaps 
> looking for what we want to see.
> Many times we seek comfort and security rather than
> truth (and I say 
> this of all of us)
> 
> When you say " I know what I am talking about" I am
> sure your not 
> implying that we all need to accept your rationale
> as being the only 
> true one.
> We all have different experiences and knowledge and
> ways of 
> processing that experience and knowledge.
> 
> HPB and the Mahatma's rationale for after death
> states of course may 
> be incorrect and I am sure they would encourage you
> to continue to 
> challenge their perspectives. 
> We also however need to challenge our own ideas,
> beliefs and the 
> nature of what we may experience in order to get a
> deeper 
> understanding.
> 
> Of course in the end the conclusions we draw are
> completely up to us.
> There is great value in the Socratic method.
> 
> Hope you continue to contribute to the group!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Perry
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anika Kinnara
> Durand" 
> <nikidurand@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Everybody-
> > 
> > I've posted several comments about the contact
> I've had with my 
> recently deceased 
> > mate and I've been met with mostly people saying
> that it can't be 
> so, and posting way 
> > too long posts of Theosophical scripture...
> > 
> > This is both wearying and tedious. I have real
> experience and I'm 
> met by opinions by 
> > people that have none. I thought that an essential
> aspect of 
> Theosophy was a 
> > questioning mind. Quoting scripture isn't
> quesitioning, it is 
> dogmatic and aggressive. 
> > I'm a new member here...is that how y'all want to
> show me what 
> Theosophy is all 
> > about? Because if that's the case, I can get that
> from my local 
> Catholic priest.
> > 
> > After a lifetime of contact with spirits and other
> beings, I know 
> what I'm talking 
> > about. Isn't the search for what's really out
> there about sharing? 
> That's what I was 
> > doing, and I've been shot down by obfuscation and
> dogma. Oh my...
> > 
> > Look, I never speak unless I have something
> meaningful to share. If 
> I have nothing to 
> > share I'd much rather listen and learn. But when I
> do speak about 
> serious matters, 
> > believe me I've spent a lot of internal time
> testing it's veracity. 
> > 
> > I will no longer engage in useless and meaningless
> badinage with 
> people who cannot 
> > open their minds and engage in a meaningful,
> compassionate 
> dialogue. I have a lot to 
> > share, a big heart, a deep love and I have zero
> judgment in my 
> aura/psyche. Dionne's 
> > sudden death stripped all judgment away...
> > 
> > I don't mind an honest and curious give and take
> discussion, but I 
> loathe dogma. 
> > Please forgive me, my usual good cheer has been
> slapped away by 
> some of the 
> > comments made about whether I actually have
> contact with my dead 
> mate. As if 
> > anyone but me would know...
> > 
> > Love and Anguish,
> > 
> > Niki Durand
> 
> 
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