Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt00994)

Hi Mark-

Um, as much as I wanna high-five you and go, "Yeah!" I
cannot. Sorry, but I'm getting much different
information! I just had a Vedic Astrological reading,
and the reader told me that she went directly to the
highest level- it's in her chart, and is her destiny.
I've never been one for scripture, of any kind, 'cos
there always exceptions to the rule, and people can
get testy when their beliefs are challenged. Not that
you'll do that, I'm sure! ;-)

Dionne has taught me many secrets about what's out
there, after we die...and what I was experiencing with
her was triply confirmed by the reading today...and it
wasn't even about her! It was about my new love,
Babetta, and I! The reader did tell me that she has
ascended to the highest level, and is in the realm of
God/Goddess. Also that she'll be giving me secrets,
and I'm her vehicle. Believe me I'll never treat her
tteachings as scripture! A person can chose to
resonate now, reject it now, reject now but resonate
later, and so on...I'm just the scribe!

One thing she told me is that she can now be several
places at once, and that she can come to me at any
time. I call her, and if I'm in the "mood", meaning my
spirit is "appropriate" for her new energy, she'll be
there! On the other side there's much more latitude
with manifesting, materializing, etc. She could be an
astral from, come through a light bulb, a plant, our
cat, me...and on and on...

Anyway, that's some of what I've learned so far...

Love and Chocolate,

Niki



--- "Mark Hamilton Jr." <waking.adept@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 
> Theosophy teaches that there are actually not one,
> but seven parts of
> man and some of them separate at death.
> 
> What you most likely are hearing from is the astral
> form. It is not
> exactly the soul, but part of the lower constitutes.
> The higher parts
> of the body are eternal and go on to be reincarnated
> (instantly to
> about 1500 years after the death, depending on
> various circumstances).
> However the astral form dissipates over a
> considerable length of time
> after a person's death.
> 
> From what I understand the astral form is almost an
> exact replica of
> what you see in the physical plane. So interacting
> with someone's
> astral body will give you nearly the same impression
> as if they were
> really there.
> 
> -Mark H.
> 
> On 4/17/05, Niki Durand <nikidurand@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Perry-
> > 
> > That's not what my recently deceased mate/wife (we
> had
> > a Lesbian thing) told me. She said that if I live
> my
> > present life to the standard that we did together,
> she
> > would be the first person to greet me on the other
> > side.
> > 
> > She also detailed her first "days" there. She said
> she
> > was given "wings" to fly anywhere she wanted to
> go,
> > and was on a vacation of sorts. And then the next
> week
> > she told me she was in a sort of "school" where
> she
> > was being acclimated to her multiple selves, and
> > galactic society.
> > 
> > My understanding was that the death process was
> the
> > cleansing part, that is that from the moment of
> death
> > to when she was aware of herself the cleansing
> already
> > happened. Part of her schooling was to assimilate
> her
> > totality, and in the course of that the lessons of
> > this last life would reveal itself...
> > 
> > She's got a lot of sass on the other side, just
> like I
> > remember before she was hit by a car and her
> life/body
> > fell apart...
> > 
> > Love,
> > 
> > niki
> > 
> > 
> > --- Perry Coles <perrycoles@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > > Here's a quote I found from HPB on after death
> > > states :
> > >
> > > "Our correspondent seems to have been misled as
> to
> > > the state of
> > > consciousness which entities experience in
> > > Kama-loka. He seems to
> > > have formed his conceptions on the visions of
> living
> > > psychics and
> > > the revelations of living mediums. But all
> > > conclusions drawn from
> > > such data are vitiated by the fact, that a
> living
> > > organism
> > > intervenes between the observer and the
> Kama-loka
> > > state per se.
> > > There can be no conscious meeting in Kama-loka,
> > > hence no grief.
> > > There is no astral disintegration pari passu
> with
> > > the separation of
> > > the shell from the spirit.
> > >
> > > According to the Eastern teaching the state of
> the
> > > deceased in Kama-
> > > loka is not what we, living men, would recognize
> as
> > > "conscious". It
> > > is rather that of a person stunned and dazed by
> a
> > > violent blow, who
> > > has momentarily "lost his senses". Hence in
> > > Kama-loka there is as a
> > > rule (apart from vicarious life and
> consciousness
> > > awakened through
> > > contact with mediums) no recognition of friends
> or
> > > relatives.
> > >
> > > We meet those we loved only in Devachan, that
> > > subjective world of
> > > perfect bliss, the state which succeeds the
> > > Kama-loka, after the
> > > separation of the principles. In Devachan all
> our
> > > personal,
> > > unfulfilled spiritual desires and aspirations
> will
> > > be realized; for
> > > we shall not be living in the hard world of
> matter
> > > but in those
> > > subjective realms wherein a desire finds its
> instant
> > > realization;
> > > because man himself is there a god and a
> creator.
> > >
> > > In dealing with the dicta of psychics and
> mediums,
> > > it must always be
> > > remembered that they translate, automatically
> and
> > > unconsciously,
> > > their experiences on any plane of consciousness,
> > > into the language
> > > and experience of our normal physical plane. And
> > > this confusion can
> > > only be avoided by the special study-training of
> > > occultism, which
> > > teaches how to trace and guide the passage of
> > > impressions from one
> > > plane to another and fix them on the memory.
> > >
> > > Kama-loka may be compared to the dressing-room
> of an
> > > actor, in which
> > > he divests himself of the costume of the last
> part
> > > he played before
> > > rebecoming himself properly - the immortal Ego
> of
> > > the Pilgrim
> > > cycling in his Round of Incarnations. The
> Eternal
> > > Ego being stripped
> > > in Kama-loka of its lower terrestrial
> principles,
> > > with their
> > > passions and desires, it enters into the state
> of
> > > Devachan. And
> > > therefore it is said that only the purely
> spiritual,
> > > the non-
> > > material emotions, affections and aspirations
> > > accompany the Ego into
> > > that state of Bliss. But the process of
> stripping
> > > off the lower, the
> > > fourth and part of the fifth, principles is an
> > > unconscious one in
> > > all normal human beings. It is only in very
> > > exceptional cases that
> > > there is a slight return to consciousness in
> > > Kama-loka: and this is
> > > the case of very materialistic unspiritual
> > > personalities, who,
> > > devoid of the conditions requisite, cannot enter
> the
> > > state of
> > > absolute Rest and Bliss." CW IX, 163
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
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