Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt00789)

-Cass, I think he takes "Light on the Path "literal:
.Before the eyes can see they must be incapable of tears.
.Before the ear can hear it must have lost its sensitiveness.

It is not hoping for him he takes this too literal:
1.Kill out ambition
2.Kill out desire of life
3.Kill out desire of comfort
4. work as those work who are ambitious.Respect life as those do who 
desire it.Be happy as those who are who life for happiness.
Seek in the heart the source of evil and expunge it.
It lives fruitfully in the heart of the devoted disciple as well as 
in the heart of the man desire.Only the strong can kill it out.

The weak must wait for its growth, its fruition, its death.
And it is a plant that lives and increases throughout the ages.
It flowers when the man has accumulated unto himself innumerable 
existences.He who will enter upon the path of power must tear this 
thing out of his heart.

And then the heart will bleed and the whole life of the man seem to 
be utterly dissolved.
This ordeal must be endured; it may come at the first step of the 
perilous ladder which leads to the path of life; it may not come 
until the last.

But O disciple, remember that it has to be endured and fasten the 
energies of your soul upon the task.
Live neither in the present nor the future, but in Eternal.
This giant weed cannot flower there; this blot upon existence is 
wiped out by the very atmosphere of eternal thought

5.But kill out all sense of separateness
6.and kill out desire for sensation
7.kill out hunger for growth
8.Yet stand alone and isolated, because nothing that is embodied, 
nothing that is out of the Eternal, can aid you.

Learn from sensation and observe it, because only so can you commence 
the science of selfknowledge and plant your foot on the first step  
of the ladder.Grow as the flowers grows, unconciously but eagerly 
anxious to open its soul to the air.So must you press forward to open 
your soul to the Etrenal that draws forth your strength and beauty, 
not desire of growth.
For in the luxurance of purity; in the other you harden by the 
forcible passion for personal stature.
Mabel Collins.

Served byChristina





-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
<christinaleestemaker@y...> wrote:
> 
> -Yes Cass,
> He stays hanging in "Für Elise" 
> So, we can see how he is presenting Theosophy.
> Christina
> 
> 
> 
> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@y...> 
wrote:
> > Thanks Eldon,
> > That is basically what I said a week ago, but Anand, who I 
> respectfully call Beethoven, was deaf and dumb to the idea.
> > Regards
> > Cass
> > 
> > 
> > Eldon B Tucker <eldon@t...> wrote:
> > 
> > I think we have drifted from a discussion of vegetarianism into 
some
> > silliness, including the eating habits of female spiders that 
have 
> just
> > copulated! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Some people chose to be vegetarian and others chose not to. 
> Sometimes
> > environment determines the decision. Tibetan Buddhists eat meat 
> because
> > their climate does not support producing enough vegetarian food 
to 
> make a
> > good diet. In other countries where the climate is better, 
> Buddhists tend to
> > be vegetarian.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > There are arguments for a vegetarian diet including harmlessness, 
> health,
> > economic, environmental (a greater quantity of vegetable food can 
be
> > produced with a given set of land and resources that meat food), 
and
> > sometimes spiritual. (I say sometimes, because different 
traditions
> > encourage it more than do others.)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Is it necessary for any of us to become vegetarian in order to 
> progress? It
> > depends upon the person. One theosophical student may need to 
lead a
> > simpler, more ascetic life in order to break free of material 
> influences and
> > connect better with his or her higher nature. Another student may 
> need to
> > eat meat in order to become more grounded, less psychical, or for 
> heath and
> > nutritional reasons. It also depends upon the person's teacher or 
> spiritual
> > school. One teacher or school may teach an approach requiring a 
> more ascetic
> > life, including vegetarianism. Another teacher or school may not 
> make such a
> > requirement, and instead emphasize other ways of self-improvement 
> and
> > service.
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