Theos-Talk Archives (April 2005 Message tt00440)

Jerry,

Feel free to object to whatever. One can do that
on this forum.  

But I think my post highlights some important
questions that hopefully some readers may find
of interest. I doubt that Anand will give them
any thought.

You may think my style is "combative" but this
is the way these ideas pop into my mind and I share
them for what they are worth.

I am not going to change the way I present things
because you think otherwise. Maybe your style of
writing and the content of your posts are not always
to everyone's liking. I remember years ago on Theos-l
Brenda Tucker would regularly get upset with much
of what you said on various subject.  

Enuff said.

Daniel

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Hejka-Ekins <jjhe@c...> 
wrote:
> Daniel,
> 
> Here is a further example of the objection I posted to you earlier.
> 
> Jerry
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> Daniel H. Caldwell wrote:
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> >Anand,
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> >You are telling us that:
> >
> >"Mr. Leadbeater was far more advanced and so he 
> >corrected many of the mistakes made by earlier writers."
> >
> >I assume you also include Master Koot Hoomi
> >among the "early writers" who made mistakes. And that
> >you believe Leadbeater corrected the mistakes of 
> >Koot Hoomi....
> >
> >Am I right or wrong in my assumptions?
> >
> >Consider the following.
> >
> >Koot Hoomi in his letters supports the view of
> >life after death which CONTRADICTS the one put
> >forth by Leadbeater.
> >
> >You don't have to believe me on this.
> >
> >Even a member of the Theosophical Society (Adyar)
> >has admitted in an Adyar TPH publication that there
> >are DIFFERENCES between the after death processes as 
> >given in the letters of the Mahatamas and the process 
> >as given later by Leadbeater. The late Helen V. Zahara observed:
> >
> >"The original statements in the Theosophical Society regarding 
the 
> >after death processes were given in Letters of the Mahatmas to 
A.P. 
> >Sinnett. . . . One must, however, note that a different 
description 
> >of the after death process appears in some works by theosophical 
> >writers. One such exponent was C.W. Leadbeater, a notable 
> >clairvoyant, who recorded what he saw of after death 
> >conditions. . . . This [Leadbeater's version] would seem to be at 
> >variance with the original teaching." 
> >
> >So Anand, who made the MISTAKES??? Koot Hoomi or Leadbeater? 
> >
> >Again in THE SECRET DOCTRINE, we find that H.P. Blavatsky and the
> >Master Koot Hoomi CORRECTED the "erroneous notion" promoted by
> >A.P. Sinnett that Mercury and Mars belong to the earth chain of 
> >globes.
> >
> >See: http://blavatskyarchives.com/moderntheosophy.htm#2 
> >
> >This is confirmed by the Master Koot Hoomi in his letter
> >to Colonel Olcott:
> >
> >"Since 1885 I have not written, nor caused to be written save 
thro' 
> >her [HPB's] agency, direct or remote, a letter or line to anybody 
in 
> >Europe or America, nor communicated orally with, or thro' any 
third 
> >party. Theosophists should learn it. You will understand later 
the 
> >significance of this declaration so keep it in mind. Her [HPB's] 
> >fidelity to our work being constant, and her sufferings having 
come 
> >upon her thro' it, neither I nor either of my Brother associates 
> >will desert or supplant her." Letters from the Masters of the 
> >Wisdom, Series I, 1973, p. 45 
> >
> >Yet years later, Leadbeater promotes this "erroneous
> >notion" of Sinnett's.
> >
> >So Anand, who made the MISTAKES??? Koot Hoomi or Leadbeater? 
> >
> >Furthermore, how do you know "Mr. Leadbeater was far more 
> >advanced...."? 
> >
> >Concerning H.P.Blavatsky's special position in relation to the 
> >Masters, the following quotes from letters of the Mahatmas K.H.
> >and M. indicate her unique status:
> >
> >"[H.P.B. is] a woman of most exceptional and
> >wonderful endowments. Combined with them
> >she had strong personal defects, but just
> >as she was, there was no second to her living
> >fit for this work. We sent her to America
> >. . . . " The Mahatma Letters, 2nd edition,
> >Letter 45.
> >
> >"... imperfect as may be our visible agent —
> >and often most unsatisfactory and imperfect
> >she is — yet she is the best available at
> >present. . . . " The Mahatma Letters, 2nd
> >edition, Letter 2.
> >
> >"This state of hers is [H.P.B.'s] intimately
> >connected with her occult training in Tibet,
> >and due to her being sent out alone into the
> >world to gradually prepare the way for others.
> >After nearly a century of fruitless search, our
> >chiefs had to avail themselves of the only
> >opportunity to send out a European body. . . . "
> >The Mahatma Letters, 2nd edition, Letter 26.
> >
> >". . . we employ agents — the best available. Of these for the
> >past thirty years the chief has been the personality known as 
H.P.B.
> >to the world (but otherwise to us). Imperfect and very 
troublesome,
> >no doubt, she proves to some, nevertheless, there is no likelihood
> >of our finding a better one for years to come — and your
> >theosophists should be made to understand it. Since 1885 I have 
not
> >written, nor caused to be written save thro' her agency, direct
> >and remote, a letter or line to anybody in Europe or America, nor
> >communicated orally with, or thro' any third party. Theosophists
> >should learn it. You will understand later the significance of 
this
> >declaration so keep it in mind. Her fidelity to our work being
> >constant, and her sufferings having come upon her thro' it,
> >neither I nor either of my Brother associates will desert or
> >supplant her. . . . This you must tell to all: — With occult
> >matters she has everything to do. . . . She is our direct
> >agent. . . . "
> >Letters from the Masters of Wisdom, Series 1, Letter 19.
> >
> >Anand, notice what Master Koot Hoomi says about Madame
> >Blavatsky:
> >
> >"With occult matters she has everything to do. . . . She is our 
> >direct agent. . . . "
> >
> >Yet you tell us that Mr. Leadbeater was far more advanced. How do 
> >you know that?
> >
> >Food for thought.
> >
> >Daniel
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