Theos-Talk Archives (March 2005 Message tt00756)

Anand,

In what way do you consider ULT a separatist group, and in what way does 
ULT challenge the Masters? ULT is merely an association of Students of 
Theosophy who are dedicated to the study of what they term "original 
teachings." Their early task was to keep in print Blavsky's and 
Judge's writings when other Theosophical organizations had either 
allowed them to go out of print, or published them in an edited and 
sometimes, revised, form. Personally, I believe that we owe a debt of 
thanks to ULT for keeping in print these writings in the form that 
Blavatsky and Judge had originally published them. 
Do you feel that the Pasadena/Point Loma TS challenged the Masters? Did 
you know that Trever Barker, who compiled and published the Mahatma 
Letters to A.P. Sinnett, was a Point Loma Theosophist? 
Perhaps I am not understanding your point. Please explain.

--j



Anand Gholap wrote:

> Jerry,
> I was talking about not just ULT but all seperatist groups which 
> broke up from the Masters' Society (Adyar TS) and created new 
> organizations to challenge the Masters.
> Anand Gholap
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Hejka-Ekins <jjhe@c...> 
> wrote:
>
>
> > As long as you are educating us on "the important facts", may I 
> correct 
>
> > a few, perhaps, less important ones in your message in order to 
> put 
>
> > your "facts" into perspective:
> >
> > 1. The ULT did not split off of the Adyar Society. It would be 
> more 
>
> > accurate to say that it was a break off of the Theosophical Society 
> led 
>
> > by Ernest Hargrove. It is true that Robert Crosbie, one of the 
> primary 
>
> > founders of ULT was at an earlier time a member of the Point Loma 
> > Theosophical Society, but he left that organization joined the 
> Hargrove 
>
> > Society and formed a group under then left the Hargrove society and 
> > formed the ULT around 1909. 
> > 2. I'm not sure what you mean by "local organization" but ULT has 
> > branches in Europe, India, North and South America. 
> > 3. Memberships in all of the Theosophical Organizations went 
> through 
>
> > cycles of increase and decline at the same time (which in my 
> opinion, is 
>
> > an indication as to how closely they are linked together 
> karmically). 
>
> > 4. I have been involved in the four presently existing Theosophical 
> > Organizations (Pasadena, ULT, Adyar) and know people and have 
> friends in 
>
> > all of them. My experience has been that they all have their share 
> of 
>
> > bright intuitive and dull unintuitive members. 
> > 5. Nevertheless, I think it is misleading to compare the Adyar TS 
> to 
>
> > ULT, because the two organizations are of very different natures. 
> The 
>
> > Adyar TS is a membership organization who support the Theosophical 
> > Society, while the ULT is an association of independent students 
> working 
>
> > to promote the Theosophical Movement. 
> > --j
> >
> >
> > Anand Gholap wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > After splitting of the Society, Judge Society, ULT depended 
> heavily on 
>
> > > Blavatsky's writing for more than 100 years. In many parts of the 
> > > world Blavatsky's writing was not appreciated, it could not 
> convince 
>
> > > intuition and intellect of people. In many parts it was actually 
> > > hated. Result is Judge Society became local organization. 
> > > Adyar TS because of Masters' blessings got many occultists who 
> wrote 
>
> > > well and it was appreciated by people around the world. So Adyar 
> TS 
>
> > > became International organization.
> > > I don't have much interest in organizational politics. But these 
> are 
>
> > > important facts.
> > > Anand Gholap 
> > >
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