Theos-Talk Archives (March 2005 Message tt00199)

In my view, the reason most occultists decide never to speak about their 
transcendent experiences to "beginners," is that such ignorant students wouldn't 
understand what he/she was talking about and become even further confused. 
Speaking to other occultists, however, is an entirely different matter. Once one 
has become an occultist the decision to speak or not is entirely self 
determined. 

On the other hand, the reason beginners should not talk about their personal 
experiences is that they usually don't know what they are talking about. :-) 

In other words, for a "beginner" to try to objectively explain a subjective 
or transcendent experience (without knowing the proper analogies, 
correspondences and symbology to use) usually greatly distorts its meaning and 
understanding -- which the expounder and listener then accepts as reality -- causing them 
both to wander off on a possibly false path that leads to even further 
confusion. 

Actually, from a Buddhist point of view, the admonition to remain silent most 
likely refers to the performance of occult powers that should not be revealed 
to others who are not initiated in the vows of benevolence and compassion or 
may be antogonistic to one's views. And, from the standpoint of the more 
esoteric schools of occultism -- especially, in the case of the practicing 
magician -- so that whoever may be affected by such action does not know what's going 
on. :-)

LM

In a message dated 03/11/05 4:32:04 AM, kay_ziatz@yahoo.com writes:

>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
>
>>In a message dated 03/08/05 3:23:41 PM, lalaya7@yahoo.com.br writes:

>>>I guess a true occultist never speaks of his personal experiences..
>>>if he does, he is not a real occultist
>>
>> Are you sure? I've met a number of occultists who spoke to me of 
>
>Sometimes it is possible when a beginner speaks about his experiences,
>he may lose his newly-acquired faculties. Maybe it is a reason why 
>some occultists never speak about it.
>
>>> Any occultist on this list who can speak from personal knowledge?
>
>At least, I can say from personal experience that if you're trying to 
>follow buddhist and theosophical teachings it can reduce the personal 
>suffering, in some extent at least. The occult principle "the less you
>say, the better" also holds good. As a rule, I talk too much and 
>consequenses are always negative :)
>
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