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Re: quote by HPB on Sepher Toldos Jeshu

Feb 25, 2005 06:44 AM
by Alaya


very interesting Perry
There is one thing about this passage you quote that calls out my 
atention.
The official version is that Peter died in Rome (so that the popes 
can come from rome)
I don't thing the church would support such manuscript
Maybe he did died in rome
DIdn't Thomas, Mathew, Simon the Magician and others went to Syria 
when Jesus died? (while other came to Egypt, France and Britain as we 
all know..) Maybe Peter did died in Babylon...
Just a last thought...
THe bible can't be 100% incorrect nor 100% correct
maybe the Sepher TOledot was really changed... but maybe some 
original parts of it are true...
well
who knows?!

Alaya

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Perry Coles" <perrycoles@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> "In the Sepher Toldos Jeshu,* a Hebrew manuscript of great 
> antiquity, the version about Peter is different. Simon Peter, it 
> says, was one of their own brethren, though he had somewhat 
departed 
> from the laws, and the Jewish hatred and persecution of the apostle 
> seems to have existed but in the fecund imagination of the fathers. 
> The author speaks of him with great respect and fairness, calling 
> him "a faithful servant of the living God," who passed his life in 
> austerity and meditation, "living in Babylon at the summit of a 
> tower," composing hymns, and preaching charity. He adds that Peter 
> always recommended to the Christians not to molest the Jews, but as 
> soon as he was dead, behold another preacher went to Rome and 
> pretended that Simon Peter had altered the teachings of his master. 
> He invented a burning hell and threatened every one with it; 
> promised miracles, but worked none. 
> 
> How much there is in the above of fiction and how much of truth, it 
> is for others to decide; but it certainly bears more the evidence 
of 
> sincerity and fact on its face, than the fables concocted by the 
> fathers to answer their end. 
> 
> We may the more readily credit this friendship between Peter and 
his 
> late co-religionists as we find in Theodoret the following 
> assertion: "The Nazarenes are Jews, honoring the ANOINTED (Jesus) 
as 
> a just man and using the Evangel according to Peter."** Peter was a 
> Nazarene, according to the Talmud. He belonged to the sect of the 
> later Nazarenes, which dissented from the followers of John the 
> Baptist, and became a rival sect; and which -- as tradition goes -- 
> was instituted by Jesus himself."
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/isis/iu2-03.htm
> 
> 
> Perry






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