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Re: Theos-World Re: Theosophist, June 1936, p. 242 on Hitler

Feb 24, 2005 01:52 PM
by Jerry Hejka-Ekins


Thanks Christina,

Other than HPB's writings, what Theosophical works do you see are 
promoting social justice and activism? Please tell us about them.

Thanks
Jerry



christinaleestemaker wrote:

>--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Hejka-Ekins <jjhe@c...> 
>wrote:
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>Jerry, that is a Great point you show us here.
>We need to read this over and over and not like a butterfly.
>
>I have the Key as well in English as well in Dutch and it is true 
>that Theosophy as HPB it wanted through the members has been changed.
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>I have seen in Naarden,(Theosophical Headcenter) in the years of 
>1980 they only give lectures in Tarot,Shjamanism and other things 
>like that: the entertaining which brings money in the cup.
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>I ask the leaders of that time, nice , but what do you bring of the 
>work of HPB ? Not so much, because not (any)one will come to our 
>summerschools.
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>For the best I said , better a few good minded people than idiots of 
>wanted going out of their minds.
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>For now I can say they have done something with this and more than 
>that.
>There is a very good booktable with interested and good looking 
>outfit.There are good lectures on theosophy and with an open sphere 
>for entertainment afterwards, as music , video presents.
>All the work of HPB,Taimni,Rohit Metha,Geoffrey Hudson,Adelaide 
>Gardner,S Varma,D Audoin,J Algeo,J Mills,Radha Burnier with her book 
>Regeneration of the Human Being and much more are available, even in 
>the normal book stores.
>Their is done a lot of work in the time of 25 years and the authentic 
>work is comming out!And in a way of this time.
>
>And always things can go better, but there had been a start.
>
>Christina
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>>john,
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>>>I might comment based on my small 5 
>>>years of exposure to Television. I was Floor Director and Host 
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>Camera for 11 
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>>>Shows twice monthly for 5 years at our Community Channel here. My 
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>observation of 
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>>>the Hosts for these shows goes like this: they have a breifing 15 -
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>30 minutes 
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>>>prior to the Show where they chat with the Guest asking questions 
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>and 
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>>>clearing the routine for the show. going in they are almost always 
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>entirely vacant of 
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>>>personal knowledge of the guests field and afterwards they forget 
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>it entirely 
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>>>and go on to the next Show.
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>>Wow. Our community channel doesn't even bother with the 15-30 
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>minute 
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>>briefing! Yes, television is a lot about ego. My family 
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>originally 
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>>moved to California around 1915 in order to get work in the then 
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>new 
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>>movie industry. My brother is the last one who stayed with it. I 
>>remember going to his house for parties where he was entertaining 
>>various actors and actricess. The conversations were so narcissic 
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>and 
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>>vacuious of meaningful content (about operations and facelifts 
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>etc.) 
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>>that I looked for opportunities to leave the room.
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>>>When we went into Iraq I taped a contract Host for "F__" 
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>attempting to 
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>>>appear like he was informing us all out here in the public and he 
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>says "Saudi 
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>>>Arabia doesn't even have an Army" my mouth dropped open in 
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>amazement. I 
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>>>thought "oh really? well then why did they purchase all those M1 
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>Abrams A-2 Model 
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>>>Main Battle Tanks when Chrysler couldn't effect a purchase order 
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>from the 
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>>>Pentagon a few years ago?" 
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>>There is a great book out which you might enjoy. It is called: 
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>House of 
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>>Bush, House of Saud the secret Relationship between the world's two 
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>most 
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>>powerful dynasties. by Craig Ungar. The relationship isn't so 
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>secret. I 
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>>have been following these connections in the Wall Street Journal 
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>for 
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>>years, but most people don't read newspapers and the TV news 
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>doesn't 
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>>talk about these things. Instead people get immersed in non-news 
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>like 
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>>the Scott Peterson trial. What is great about the book is that it 
>>follows the money, names the corporations, banks and politicians 
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>who are 
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>>involved in the buying and selling of oil contracts, weapons to 
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>Iraq and 
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>>Iran etc. Among other things, it documents about $1.4 billion that 
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>moved 
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>>from the Saud family to the Bush family. All of the documentation 
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>is 
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>>checkable. Most of it is buried in newspaper accounts that few 
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>people 
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>>read and even less understand for what they are. 
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>>>Jerry, I would be interested if you might list for us what in 
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>particular 
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>>>you consider important today in 2005 and how you think each item 
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>can be used 
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>>>widely and publically.
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>>Basically, the philosophy Blavatsky was trying to promote is a kind 
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>of 
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>>universal perennialism--ie all religions are branches of a common 
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>tree. 
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>> That makes Theosophy the trunk. She also had the notion of the 
>>universe emenating from a single source, and humanity with a common 
>>heritage. If these notions were commonly held by all humanity, I 
>>believe the world would be vastly different and more pleasent. So 
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>did 
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>>HPB. The ideas have implications concerning human 
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>responsibilities to 
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>>other humans, social activism and social justice. She develops 
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>these 
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>>ideas into doable activities for individuals and groups, and tried 
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>to 
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>>model some of this activism in the early days of the TS. But after 
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>she 
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>>died, the TS took a very different turn and her approach forgotten 
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>in 
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>>favor of the expectation of a new age Christ. Look in the index in 
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>the 
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>>Key to Theosophy under words like
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>>"Altruism," "Brotherhood," "Cant," "Charity," "Ethics," Ideals" 
>>(relating to efforts of TS members),"Justice," "Karma (in terms of 
>>personal responsibility)," "Suffering"
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>>All of these key words will lead to discussions which point out 
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>human 
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>>responsibilities and ways for their fulfillment in such a manner to 
>>benefit all of humanity. HPB never pinned her teachings upon the 
>>expectation of this or that savior, but upon humanity to pull 
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>itself out 
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>>of the mud. These types of discussions are all through her 
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>writings, 
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>>but nicely summarized in the Key. For a chat board, I would love 
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>to 
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>>see one dedicated exclusively to these ideas. Alexandria West does 
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>this 
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>>and I would like to find and work with other activist groups who 
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>are 
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>>applying them.
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>>>As to War it is easy to accept a generality that seems to have 
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>easy 
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>>>acceptance is the primary reason that promulgates a War but 
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>historians often find 
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>>>analytic reasons that are significantly different than what 
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>aroused groups do 
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>>>and say. 
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>>Yes, absolutely. And those reasons usually boil down to economics 
>>and/or the opportunity for a small hand-full of already privledged 
>>families to increase their already enormous wealth and power. Even 
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>with 
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>>idealological wars like Vietnam, huge amounts of money moved up to 
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>the 
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>>upper 4%. When I was teaching composition courses, I talked to a 
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>lot of 
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>>freshman at the University here. Most of them admire the upper 4% 
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>and 
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>>want to be like them. They have this wild idea that they will be 
>>joining them when they get their MBA. They've been brainwashed 
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>into 
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>>believing that they can rise far above their economic roots to the 
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>top 
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>>of the hill. In reality, even a move of just one step up the 
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>social 
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>>latter is very rare, and to get to the top requires family 
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>connections. 
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>>Selfishness and greed combined with naivete and ignorance wins out 
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>every 
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>>time. 
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>>Jerry
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