Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00747)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Hejka-Ekins <jjhe@c...> 
wrote:

Jerry, that is a Great point you show us here.
We need to read this over and over and not like a butterfly.

I have the Key as well in English as well in Dutch and it is true 
that Theosophy as HPB it wanted through the members has been changed.

I have seen in Naarden,(Theosophical Headcenter) in the years of 
1980 they only give lectures in Tarot,Shjamanism and other things 
like that: the entertaining which brings money in the cup.

I ask the leaders of that time, nice , but what do you bring of the 
work of HPB ? Not so much, because not (any)one will come to our 
summerschools.

For the best I said , better a few good minded people than idiots of 
wanted going out of their minds.


For now I can say they have done something with this and more than 
that.
There is a very good booktable with interested and good looking 
outfit.There are good lectures on theosophy and with an open sphere 
for entertainment afterwards, as music , video presents.
All the work of HPB,Taimni,Rohit Metha,Geoffrey Hudson,Adelaide 
Gardner,S Varma,D Audoin,J Algeo,J Mills,Radha Burnier with her book 
Regeneration of the Human Being and much more are available, even in 
the normal book stores.
Their is done a lot of work in the time of 25 years and the authentic 
work is comming out!And in a way of this time.

And always things can go better, but there had been a start.

Christina









> 
> john,
> >I might comment based on my small 5 
> >years of exposure to Television. I was Floor Director and Host 
Camera for 11 
> >Shows twice monthly for 5 years at our Community Channel here. My 
observation of 
> >the Hosts for these shows goes like this: they have a breifing 15 -
30 minutes 
> >prior to the Show where they chat with the Guest asking questions 
and 
> >clearing the routine for the show. going in they are almost always 
entirely vacant of 
> >personal knowledge of the guests field and afterwards they forget 
it entirely 
> >and go on to the next Show.
> >
> 
> Wow. Our community channel doesn't even bother with the 15-30 
minute 
> briefing! Yes, television is a lot about ego. My family 
originally 
> moved to California around 1915 in order to get work in the then 
new 
> movie industry. My brother is the last one who stayed with it. I 
> remember going to his house for parties where he was entertaining 
> various actors and actricess. The conversations were so narcissic 
and 
> vacuious of meaningful content (about operations and facelifts 
etc.) 
> that I looked for opportunities to leave the room.
> 
> >When we went into Iraq I taped a contract Host for "F__" 
attempting to 
> >appear like he was informing us all out here in the public and he 
says "Saudi 
> >Arabia doesn't even have an Army" my mouth dropped open in 
amazement. I 
> >thought "oh really? well then why did they purchase all those M1 
Abrams A-2 Model 
> >Main Battle Tanks when Chrysler couldn't effect a purchase order 
from the 
> >Pentagon a few years ago?" 
> >
> 
> There is a great book out which you might enjoy. It is called: 
House of 
> Bush, House of Saud the secret Relationship between the world's two 
most 
> powerful dynasties. by Craig Ungar. The relationship isn't so 
secret. I 
> have been following these connections in the Wall Street Journal 
for 
> years, but most people don't read newspapers and the TV news 
doesn't 
> talk about these things. Instead people get immersed in non-news 
like 
> the Scott Peterson trial. What is great about the book is that it 
> follows the money, names the corporations, banks and politicians 
who are 
> involved in the buying and selling of oil contracts, weapons to 
Iraq and 
> Iran etc. Among other things, it documents about $1.4 billion that 
moved 
> from the Saud family to the Bush family. All of the documentation 
is 
> checkable. Most of it is buried in newspaper accounts that few 
people 
> read and even less understand for what they are. 
> 
> >Jerry, I would be interested if you might list for us what in 
particular 
> >you consider important today in 2005 and how you think each item 
can be used 
> >widely and publically.
> >
> 
> Basically, the philosophy Blavatsky was trying to promote is a kind 
of 
> universal perennialism--ie all religions are branches of a common 
tree. 
> That makes Theosophy the trunk. She also had the notion of the 
> universe emenating from a single source, and humanity with a common 
> heritage. If these notions were commonly held by all humanity, I 
> believe the world would be vastly different and more pleasent. So 
did 
> HPB. The ideas have implications concerning human 
responsibilities to 
> other humans, social activism and social justice. She develops 
these 
> ideas into doable activities for individuals and groups, and tried 
to 
> model some of this activism in the early days of the TS. But after 
she 
> died, the TS took a very different turn and her approach forgotten 
in 
> favor of the expectation of a new age Christ. Look in the index in 
the 
> Key to Theosophy under words like
> 
> "Altruism," "Brotherhood," "Cant," "Charity," "Ethics," Ideals" 
> (relating to efforts of TS members),"Justice," "Karma (in terms of 
> personal responsibility)," "Suffering"
> 
> 
> All of these key words will lead to discussions which point out 
human 
> responsibilities and ways for their fulfillment in such a manner to 
> benefit all of humanity. HPB never pinned her teachings upon the 
> expectation of this or that savior, but upon humanity to pull 
itself out 
> of the mud. These types of discussions are all through her 
writings, 
> but nicely summarized in the Key. For a chat board, I would love 
to 
> see one dedicated exclusively to these ideas. Alexandria West does 
this 
> and I would like to find and work with other activist groups who 
are 
> applying them.
> 
> 
> 
> > As to War it is easy to accept a generality that seems to have 
easy 
> >acceptance is the primary reason that promulgates a War but 
historians often find 
> >analytic reasons that are significantly different than what 
aroused groups do 
> >and say. 
> >
> 
> Yes, absolutely. And those reasons usually boil down to economics 
> and/or the opportunity for a small hand-full of already privledged 
> families to increase their already enormous wealth and power. Even 
with 
> idealological wars like Vietnam, huge amounts of money moved up to 
the 
> upper 4%. When I was teaching composition courses, I talked to a 
lot of 
> freshman at the University here. Most of them admire the upper 4% 
and 
> want to be like them. They have this wild idea that they will be 
> joining them when they get their MBA. They've been brainwashed 
into 
> believing that they can rise far above their economic roots to the 
top 
> of the hill. In reality, even a move of just one step up the 
social 
> latter is very rare, and to get to the top requires family 
connections. 
> Selfishness and greed combined with naivete and ignorance wins out 
every 
> time. 
> 
> Jerry