Re: Theos-World Re: Theosophy and Dzogchen
Feb 23, 2005 05:51 AM
by samblo
Erica,
Thanks for your comments and personal reflections of your direct
observations of the Tibetans.
Of course as the Temporal and Spiritual Leader of Tibet the Dalai Lama
has obligation to assist all Tibetans, I quite agree and this is good. But I
made specific points about his assistance of excising the Libraries, texts,
woodcuts of the various Orders other than the Gelugpa Order and arranged funding so
that they may be reproduced and disseminated widely including the Bon
literary religoius texts. This is a little different than a general helping of all
Tibetans as tibetan people.
>>Well it is not so difficult to understand that whatever is promoting left
hand teachings is going to be easier accepted by the society and consequently
will gather thousand of followers.<<
I really don't understand the logic here, I view people in general as being
basically good and in my view most if not 95% or higher would have no
inclination to involve in left-handed practices that they perceive might harm others.
Why do you have this view?
>>Or do you think that a Lama just because has the status of a Lama is
somebody that may have any spiritual status?<<
No, I have the view that if they have rightly performed the dzogchen to
it's highest end product and result they would have no inclination to practice
left-hand actions.
Yes, I too have seen monks wearing gold colored watches, but in the modren
world if you miss the plane or train or appointment it usually inconveniences
others who rely upon their punctuality for many reasons. Expedient means are
not the end but only what is necessary to accomplish goals. Vedanta, Catholic
monks also wear watches and have Pc's at their center, have a book
store,online home page and secure purchase arrangement. I hope you don't want to return
to the 7th century based on misplaced aesthetics, I don't.
It depends on what is inspected in the survey to determine how much has
changed in 1000 years. We stopped burning people at the stake, and alot of other
things, at least here in the west. Change is terribly slow for all of us in
terms of how fast we would seem to like it to happen, but half of the problem
of the world is half of the world is in rebellion against change which they
perceive is happening too fast for their wishes and how it woulf affect their
most deeply cherished faults. I agree change proceeds slowly and I have
entertained the theory that there is a senior moderating infleunce that restricted the
pace as a collective function of governance of mankind quite beyiond our
individual cognizance. I hold a faith that this unseen projector of the movement
of mankind has a better pulse on it than we as individuals have.
John
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