Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00698)

Just something I remembered
Dugpas in budhism
are the jesuits in christianism
the equivalent.

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Konstantin Zaitzev" 
<kay_ziatz@y...> wrote:
> 
> Cass Silva wrote:
> 
> > Why is everyone so terrified of the negative in the world.
> 
> I agree, and I don't like those teachings which emphasize the role
> of dark forces.
> 
> >If there are Dugpas and Gelupkas I want to understand where
> they came from and what part they play in the overall scheme of
> our evolution.
> 
> For example, exercizing evil emotions they promote development
> of some elemental kingdoms. They sacrifice their own progress
> to let evolve the life which is still even lower than a mineral!
> 
> «We speak of good forms and evil, and rightly, as regards our own
> evolution. But from the wider standpoint of the kosmos, good and
> evil are relative terms, and everything is very good in the sight of
> the Supreme who lives in every one. How can a type come
> into existence in which He cannot live? How can anything live and
> move, save as it has its being in Him? Each type has its work;
> each type has its place; the type of the Rakshasa as much as the
> type of the Deva, of the Asura as much as of the Sura. Let
> me give you one curious little simple example, which yet has a
> certain graphic force. You have a pole you want to move, and that
> pole is on a pivot, like the mountain which churned the ocean, a
> pole with its two ends, positive and negative we will call them.
> The positive end, we will say, is pushed in the direction of the 
river
> (the river flowing beyond one end of the hall at Adyar). The
> negative pole is pushed — in what direction? In the opposite. And
> those who are pushing it have their faces turned in the opposite
> direction. One man looks at the river, the other man has his back
> to it, looking in the opposite direction. But the pole turns in the 
> one
> direction although they push in opposite directions. They are
> working round the same circle, and the pole goes faster
> because it is pushed from its two ends. There is the picture of our
> universe. The positive force you call the Deva or Sura; his face is
> turned, it seems, to God. The negative force you call the Rakshasa
> or Asura; his face, it seems, is turned away from God.»
> (A. Besant, "Avataras")
> 
> «The Dark Brothers are—remember this always— erring and misguided
> yet still sons of the one Father though straying far, very far,
> into the land of distances. The way back for them will be long,
> but the mercy of evolution inevitably forces them back al ong the
> path of return in cycles far ahead. Anyone who over-exalts the
> concrete mind and permits it continuously to shut out the higher,
> is in danger of straying on the left-hand path. Many so
> stray...but come back, and then in the future avoid like errors
> in the same way as a child once burnt avoids the fire. It is the
> man who persists in spite of warning and of pain who eventually
> becomes a brother of darkness.»
> (A. Bailey, "Letters on occult meditation")