Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00683)

John,

Thanks for your interesting reflections. My responses to some of them 
below: 
> I guess 
> in terms of what you consider and important element, and I am in no way saying 
> it is not, much if not the greater bulk of Madame Blavatskys works and a great 
> deal of other Theosophical Archive is not useful directly in present reality 
> as perceived by all of mankinds people as tool with which to interact to ones 
> dierect environment.
I believe that Blavatsky's writings are of an immense relevance and 
importance to our times, and that their overall positive influence has 
been greatly underestimated. On the other hand, her writings have, for 
various reasons, not been well understood by most of the people who 
have attempted to read her. My odd friend in Los Angeles is a rather 
extreme example of how occult writings can be perceived, but I suspect 
that his strange view of the world has more to do with his own nature 
than what he reads.

> But the activity seems to 
> basically culture people to "pick a team" like a sports event, from that 
> point on they have no rationality and comsume their team porridge as the golden 
> honey of the gods for better or for worse.
Sports event is also the simile I like too use for politics. War too. 
When we went into Iraq two years ago, the evening news on the event 
sounded more like sports coverage. I remember one major news caster 
comment: "just think, in another couple of weeks, we're going to own 
this country." I cringed at the ignorance. But, to be fair, he was also 
too young to remember Viet Nam.

> I never envisioned the study of Madame Blavatsky and the 
> Archives of Theosophy as a political education giving me the means to change the 
> existent order of things, although perhaps the Mahatma's did think long term 
> transformations would occur in terms of the world itself, not necessarily all 
> portions together at the same time.
There is a lot of important material in the Key to Theosophy regarding 
Theosophy as a means to bring about meaningful change. No one ever 
seems to talk about it, and I never seen any of the Theosophical 
organizations attempt to put any of it into action. 
> In terms of authenticity to earlier correlates where is found a world that is 
> totally transformed? I see only proportions that are changed for a season and 
> a time and no all-inclusive event accepted into all in any given instance. I 
> don't subscribe to Utopian theory myself.
The irony is that utopia literally means "no place."

> Politicians take advantage of the knowledge of 
> the effects and media also. Self Determination of the Being is the ideal 
> scene and only when it is truely that with all the attributes and marks that 
> distinguish it as such. Until man changes one by one towards that arrival in 
> significant percentiles I think we just have to muddle along making the best of it 
> and discerning as best we can each as we can. Monolithic recipes are not the 
> apparent answer as far as I can detect. The World Teacher/Leader/Father/Other 
Note your terms here: "Self Determination"; "monolithic" "World Teacher" 
"Leader" "Father" all evoke masculine imagery. I mention this because 
my wife commented this morning: "Only the feminine energy is going to 
make a better world right now. The problem now is that the world is 
over balanced with the masculine--wars, agression....The world needs 
feminine energy, it needs nurturing." I think she is right. 
Jerry




samblo@cs.com wrote:

> Jerry,
> Thanks for your comments and explanations, they are appreciated. I guess 
> in terms of what you consider and important element, and I am in no way saying 
> it is not, much if not the greater bulk of Madame Blavatskys works and a great 
> deal of other Theosophical Archive is not useful directly in present reality 
> as perceived by all of mankinds people as tool with which to interact to ones 
> dierect environment. Mayhaps your friend also saw Rock Hudson in the movie 
> The Martian Chronicles. There is a whole cult that advocates Richard Hoaglands 
> book on the Monuments of Mars (the Face on the Plain of Sedona). And many other 
> involvements in a wide spectrum of interests that provide a diversion from 
> the druggery of life and boredom.
> One reason I belong to this Forum is I after many decades find politics 
> appaling experientially. I have had minor exposure and find most politicians 
> nausiating to be around. Picture Greek Masks held in every hand. I as others 
> have regard for the world scenic displays and do manage to obtain a view or 
> views on many a topic in the news on a day to day basis. But the activity seems to 
> basically culture people to "pick a team" like a sports event, from that 
> point on they have no rationality and comsume their team porridge as the golden 
> honey of the gods for better or for worse. Their penetration is vacous at best 
> and the mean is far worse in my view. The activity earns it's results and in 
> todays instantaenous communication the results come faster but not necessarily 
> based on wisdom. I never envisioned the study of Madame Blavatsky and the 
> Archives of Theosophy as a political education giving me the means to change the 
> existent order of things, although perhaps the Mahatma's did think long term 
> transformations would occur in terms of the world itself, not necessarily all 
> portions together at the same time. As I said in other posts I restrict my 
> activity here and do not post political content or respond to those who do although 
> I wouldn't have a shortage of responces if I did. We all have our views, and 
> my view is poiltics creates very nasty people on forums.
>
> For quite a while now the key term "World Teacher" has been the foci of 
> much discussion, but looking at this unique term what exactly when it is 
> presented to any one does it cause to be envisioned in the mind of people in general? 
> In terms of authenticity to earlier correlates where is found a world that is 
> totally transformed? I see only proportions that are changed for a season and 
> a time and no all-inclusive event accepted into all in any given instance. I 
> don't subscribe to Utopian theory myself.
> I think personally drugs enter into the equation due to the wide use today 
> practically every where. I have noted friends I have who use pot on a regular 
> basis and almost never recall what was told to them even a short time later, 
> I also see changees in the rationalization processes and judgemental 
> ratcionation ability along with persecution worries that seem very much amplified and 
> in general result in anti-social sentiments particularily against the existing 
> establishment accompanied with a willingness to participate in redress of 
> every thing under the sun socially. Politicians take advantage of the knowledge of 
> the effects and media also. Self Determination of the Being is the ideal 
> scene and only when it is truely that with all the attributes and marks that 
> distinguish it as such. Until man changes one by one towards that arrival in 
> significant percentiles I think we just have to muddle along making the best of it 
> and discerning as best we can each as we can. Monolithic recipes are not the 
> apparent answer as far as I can detect. The World Teacher/Leader/Father/Other 
> Determination is reflection of the paradox itself and responce correlated 
> internally to a desire to return to Native State of Being and Original Nature using 
> the "via" of "another" to rescue and restore as the success formula, this in 
> and of itself invalidates the one that desires to self restore. 
> Transliterations of the same are externalized and become the engine of many distractions 
> found in the world.
>
> I'm sure this open and candid post will have fast karma reppy here,lol.
>
> My best regards Jerry,
>
> John 
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