Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00525)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" wrote:

> I think All is working through the brain.
> Only the ways to the brain are different, o you call the higher 
> mind the mind-brain entlightenend with the working Ajna(6 st sense) 
chakra 

> And I am sure Krisnamurti would have know that.

He might have HEARD that but probably he didn't KNEW.
For instance, he probably heard about life after death, but the fact 
that he was so distressed by the death of his brother proves that he 
had only theoretical knowledge, if he had any. Maybe those 
pumpkin-heads which were around him in "Order of the star" didn't 
guess that they could show to the "World teacher" one of those 
booklets like "To those who mourn" which were kept in tons in 
theosophical bookstores then. Whatever he have taught, he was 
materialistic inside, even then. Some think that he taught vedanta or 
so-called monism. Well, if one believes in one matter and nothing 
beyong it, he may call it "monism", because only one element is 
admitted, but it is no other than gross materialism. And it wasn't 
advaita-vedanta neither.
«Human beings, out of their fear, invented god. And they tried to 
reach god, which is the ultimate principle, in India it is called 
Brahman, the ultimate principle». (Krishnamurti on meditation)
http://www.krishnamurtiaustralia.org/articles/meditation%201.htm
He obviously saw no distinction between brahman and god, so he not 
only didn't taught vedanta, but probably didn't know anything about 
it.
In later period he says more openly in favour of materialism:

«Thought is mechanical, as is the organism». (Krishnamurti on 
meditation)

David Bohm writes:
«Through close attention to and observation of this activity of 
thought, Krishnamurti feels that he directly perceives that thought is 
a material process, which is going on inside of the human being in the 
brain and nervous system as a whole».
(A Brief Introduction to the Work of Krishnamurti)
http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/K/K1.html#BohmIntro2K

So both me and Bohm have understood Krishnamurti the same way, and the 
russian translations from which I have read that brain creates thought 
were probably correct. Though Bohm is a scientist, in his 
conversations with Krishnamurti he is comparatively less materialistic 
and shows himself rather as an occultist while Krishnamurti rather as 
a materialist.