Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00480)

Hi Pablo,
My experience has also been a great deal of liberality among the 
individual members of the society and there is a lot of selfless good 
work the society does do.

Local in-house publications within branches can also be quite open 
and liberal.
The problem is the official journals and publications of the society.
This is one of the real acid tests for genuine openness and freedom 
of thought for an organization I think.

Jerry gave a very good description of some of the political 
undercurrents and how they affect what is and isn't discussed openly 
by the society but none the less still exist as part of the political 
culture.

An important part of "self transformation and regeneration" and 
living a "theosophical way" is being honest and truthful this applies 
on an organizational level as much as an individual level.

Denial and censorship slow down or even may stop the process for any 
of the above processes to happen for the organization.
Individuals evolve according to there own efforts and insights 
accordingly.

So I am not suggesting that individuals within the society do not do 
worthwhile and good work and are not open minded as individuals.

I would not mind working within the society again if I could see that 
the leadership was willing to start to deal with all the issues that 
we've been discussing here on this forum.
Denial is repression not transformation.
Thus far I have not seen any willingness (by the leadership) to even 
acknowledge a problem let alone work towards regeneration and 
transformation as an organization by dealing with these issues.

Honest and open willingness to address past history are basic 
prerequisites for any psychological development and transformation to 
begin to occur.

Being told there is no problem and everything is ok to me means 
ignoring certain fundamental hypocrisies and I can't just ignore them.
While the individual "member has freedom to make whatever studies he 
wants" this freedom is not extended to official publications. 
If articles addressing the CWL / Neo theosophy issues are not allowed 
to be addressed in official publications doesn't this strike at the 
very core of free and open examination of ideas and teachings?

I ask do you, IN PRINCIPLE believe such articles should be allowed to 
be published in official society publications?

I think many members and students would be interested to read these 
opinions and investigate for themselves.

Cheers

Perry


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Pablo Sender <pasender@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Perry
> 
> 
> 
> I think (it is my personal viewpoint) that Adyar TS is not very 
much interested in that kind of work for the moment. Adyar TS is now 
prompting members to work in the (self)transformation (human 
regeneration) in order to live in a theosophical way.
> 
> But every member has freedom to make whatever studies he wants. For 
example, in my City, there are four lodges working in the same 
building. One of them (the bigger one) is "Blavatskyan" and most of 
its members disagree with Leadbeater teachings. Another Lodge works 
exclusively with Krishnamurti teachings. The other two make a 
comparative study and haven't a fixed position.
> 
> These Lodges works together in a good harmony (with some conflicts 
here and there, of course) and make publics lectures and workshops in 
a coordinate way. Every member offers his point of view and usually 
don't try to attack or to argue the other viewpoints.
> 
> I think this is healthy, don't you?
> 
> But, if you're interested in that kind of investigations (and I'm 
too), just do it! Nobody will reject it. Especially if investigation 
has an honest spirit, as I said. What's the problem you find?
> 
> Best
> 
> Pablo
> 
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