Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00423)

Dear John
My understanding is that Antakarana is the thread that ties the Higher Self to the Lower Self and can be broken by the use of hallucinatory drugs which can rip through the etheric sheath. Once the thread is broken the Higher Self can no longer overshadow the Lower Self, and can lead to insanity, madness etc.
I expect you are right in saying that as above so below, and that the Higher Self is connected to the Atma-Buddhi of itself by the same thread but at a different level.
I posted the article on Antakarana in regard to what HPB says can happen to a chela and I guess wanted other opinions to validate my conclusion.
Cass

samblo@cs.com wrote:

Cass,
Your previous E-mail posting of Glaskell's Dictionary got deleted while I 
was replying due to a crash I had with the Pc. But I knew there was a reason 
Ilked to definitions you choose from his Dictionary. I looked and I have the 
1978 Edition on my shelf which I haven't been into for quite a while.

Well, I don't recall that I made mention of "good and evil" I think 
another interposed that in a reply. But my view is that the Buddhic Principle 
arises with the Manvantaric initiation of it's apparency and it is the Buddhic 
Principle which enables Karma itself as a function due to the intrinsic Nature of 
that Principle. I also have a view that the Buddhic Principle and 
Hiranyagarbha are intimate and through the principle of reflectivity are intinsicaly found 
in all beings. As the Transcendental Principle connotated as Krishna of a 
higher scale has seat so to speak in the Buddhic when characterized as 
individuality this is the Heart Krishna is seated in. This is analog to the Atma/Buddhi 
in my view. Buddhists view all human beings and beyond human in the non-human 
form and subtle realms as having the buddhic nature intrinsically for the same 
reason in my view or opinion. If this was not the case then there could not 
be a possiblity of enlightenment because the essential principle would not be 
found in our economy of being. I have never read much of Krishnamurti but I did 
read the Speech posted and I agree with alomost all he said there. Harry 
Truman said much the same but in a succinct form "The Buck Stops Here." The Lotus 
is a most ancient Symbol and is more than the earthly flower symbolic of 
Enlightenment, I hold the view that it has an analog intimate the the Enlightenment 
process itself which is also experiencable and formed the basis of the 
ancient perpetuation of the concept. One of the terminal teachings of the Buddha was 
the Lotus Sutra. Blavatsky discoursed upon the Central Sun. Because we are 
entombed as it were in a human body it is a problem to conceive conexxion to 
what is beyond the body itself as a reality, yet Blavatsky and pretty much all 
before her who she references laid this on the table of their hearers over the 
millenia. Absent the body do the Highest Principles cease as if they were 
dependent upon the body?

On your request for information on Clear Light I have to access my other 
PC for that so I can post some interesting informative content, but it is 
Tibetan and nottken from Krishnamurti even if he expounds principle views that are 
correlate. In the mean time here is a piece of beauty:

Teachings of Tilopa - Song of Mahamudra
http://www.kagya-asia.com/I_tilo_t_song_mahamudra2.html

John


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