Theos-Talk Archives (February 2005 Message tt00067)

Dear Zakk
Hope your sojourn was restful. In response to your posting, I have been reading that (please allow for misinterpretations,) that our Karma (back in the third root race) started in the Astral with what the Christians call, original sin. It had something to do with the formation of our Astral bodies by the Pitris. When the mind born refused to incarnate into the gross bodies. Somehow their fall was our fall and we inherited Karma. I am not taking this as gospel, but it is an interesting study as if we were born pure of spirit, one imagines we were born karmically virginal. 

So with this theory in mind, our astral body will accumulate karma as an effect of the original sin. But you say this is non-linear. How do we bring this original sin karma into equilibrium especially if it is non-linear?

I am tripping over my words here, but I think what I am basically asking is how did Karma ( be it laws or otherwise) begin. What was the first cause? 

And isn't emotional karma (our desires) and mental karma (our thoughts) linked to the physical (actions) so the linear connection is established while the self is incarnated in the physical.

Can you give me an example of non-linear karma generated in our astral and mental states. Non-linear to me means that there is no connection between cause and effect.

Cass


Zakk Duffany <zakkduffany@earthlink.net> wrote:


> My perspective of karma is not usual. I perceive karma as 
guiding laws. Karma experiences an Involution process. 
Linear karma would be not be identical to non-linear karma.
An example is the karmic law of merit and demerit. It is a linear
law of the physical or linear. This karma is not experienced by
self unless incarnated in the physical. 
Other karma laws are existent on other levels of existence.< 

Cass wrote : 
> >ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT OUR ASTRAL AND 
MENTAL BODIES GENERATE KARMA OR ARE SUBJECT
TO THE LAW OF KARMA?<<

Zakk ) I was stating that karma exist on those planes and one's 
astral or mental self are subject to the laws (karma) of those states.
One does not generate karma, by prior definition, because one
does not generate the laws of the corresponding states. One 
experiences the eneactment of those karmic laws. It is to be
remembered that the laws (karma) of the astral and mental differ
from the physical. The "trancending of physical karma is the 
transcending of the physical state, not the transcending of all states.
As physical karma is to be transcended, so are the others.

> Cass ) Karma needs appropriate instruments (conditions) for its action. <

Zakk ) Conditions / instruments exist on the astral and mental.





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