Re: Theos-World Re: Pedro: Leadbeater "was presenting the results of his own studies."
Jan 27, 2005 06:01 PM
by Cass Silva
Can anyone tell me who the little man that failed, that KH refers to
Cass
prmoliveira <prmoliveira@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel H. Caldwell"
wrote:
> Pedro,
>
> Perry wrote:
>
> ==============================================
> He [CWL] may have said you can believe this or not,
> but that is quite a different thing from not
> pointing out to his readers and followers how
> his teachings clashed with those of the Adept
> teachers of Blavatsky he claimed to be a Chela
> and student of.
> =============================================
>
> And to these remarks, you replied:
>
> ============================================
> Why should he do this? He [CWL] was presenting the
> results of HIS OWN studies. And
>
> "The fact is, that to the last and supreme
> initiation every chela -(and even some adepts) -
> is left to his own device and counsel." (ML
> 92, chronological)
> ============================================
> caps added
>
> Pedro, it is interesting to compare and contrast what
> you say Leadbeater was doing with what Madame Blavatsky
> said about what the adepts were doing.
>
> In one of her articles, Madame Blavatsky tells her readers that the
> Adepts "check each other's conclusions . . . [and] test each
> other's discoveries."
>
> This is repeated in THE SECRET DOCTRINE where she writes
> that "no vision of one adept was accepted till it was checked and
> confirmed by the visions --- so obtained as to stand as independent
> evidence --- of other adepts, and by centuries of experiences."
>
> The method as described by Blavatsky is a collaborative effort of
> comparing, contrasting and checking.
>
> Pedro, are you suggesting that Leadbeater did his clairvoyant studies
> on his own and without consultation with the Adepts Morya, Koot Hoomi
> and others? In other words, he was "left to his own device and
> counsel."
>
> You have written that Leadbeater's "visions" of Mars were "basically
> wrong." Would this suggest (following your line of thought)that
> Leadbeater did NOT seek confirmation of the accuracy of his
> Mars "observations" from the Adepts or from his own Master Koot Hoomi?
>
> Some food for thought.
As I already said, he took responsibility for what he wrote. I also
never found any claim by him that the Masters had validated, certified
and authenticated what he wrote. But then again, one's time for
reading is limited.
I think he was left to his own counsel. See what K.H. wrote to him:
TAKE courage. I am pleased with you. Keep your own counsel, and
believe in your better intuitions. The little man has failed and will
reap his reward. Silence meanwhile.
K.H.
(LETTERS FROM THE MASTERS OF THE WISDOM, First Series, Letter 50)
Pedro
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