Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00964)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel H. Caldwell" <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Theos-World Dennis on naked boys


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> Dennis
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> You write in part:
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> Dennis, in YOUR examples, did a NUDE man in his fifties, sixties
> seventies or eighties SHOWER IN THE NUDE with boys of 13, 14 and 15?
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Well, I see that all of my questions are ignored.

But, on the other hand, at Santa Monica Beach, in Los Angeles County,
there is a rest room on the beach with lockers and benches and showers
in one end of the room, where nude men of all ages DO shower in the
NUDE (How else do you shower?) with teen age boys. No one gets upset
about it. At most swimming pools that I have attended, all ages of
males do shower together, and no one gets upset, or demands that
people be segregated by age.

> And YOUR examples ignore the sleeping in bed with nude boys of that
> same age group.

I did address it in a limited way, mentioning a report that the boy
was exhausted afterward, and disapproved of it. It seems that people
read selectively, and ignore the practical aspect of it all.

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> Would you want YOUR son of 13, 14 or 15 showering in the nude and
> sleeping nude in the bed with a man of 50 plus years??????????

Showering is different from going to bed. I have no objection to all
ages showering together, since I have seen it done, and it is done all
the time here in Los Angeles, at the beaches, and the "Water Parks",
and the County swimming pools.

I really don't see if it is relevant the age of the adult. Would you
be happier if the adult was just 21, or 35, or 90? What does the age
of the people have to do with it?

My questions as to the time line of getting up in the morning, and the
availably of bathrooms versus the time alloted to get ready for
breakfast, and the number of males to use the facilities in the time
alloted is also ignored, I see.

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> The same could be asked of Michael Jackson: why is Jackson a grown
> man sleeping in the bed with boys of 13, 14 and 15 years of ago?
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> And would you want your son to sleep in the same bed with Michael
> Jackson?

And how did Michael get in with CWL? I have never met Michael, but if
I do, I will ask him to explain his understanding of Theosophy.

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> Your examples are not relevant....

We disagree. My examples were ignored.

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> Daniel